Season SIX OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by Salinga, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. jimbotron

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    Thanks. Of course you could have avoided the confusion by choosing another shot for the comparison. ;)
     
  2. FrontierTrek

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    I didn't make that particular video - the author wasn't aware of the trailer reframe :)
     
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  4. Maxwell Everett

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    There's no special TV film stock. TV and film use(d) the same motion picture stocks -- whatever is produced at the time by the company making the stock, like Eastman Kodak. The high-speed stocks TNG used (5294, 5295, & 5296) were the same stocks being used on feature films during the run of the show from '87-'94. For instance, James Cameron used the new Kodak stock EXR 500T 5296 on T2 which was their first (partial) T-grain emulsion which had tighter grain in all but the fast yellow layer (deep blue colors). Marvin Rush, who became DP during TNG's 3rd season, also began using this stock around this time 1989-1990.

    5296, according to Kodak's data sheet had a resolving power of 50 line pairs per millimeter at typically photographed contrast levels. For TNG, that means the negative area used has a resolution of around 2012 x 1509. For T2 it would be 2400 x 1004. The difference comes from the cinematographic process or negative area that is used. Of course, it never hurts to scan at a higher resolution (4K), but it sometimes isn't necessary.

    Also, the quality of the lens has a big effect on the sharpness of the image. TNG used a lot of zoom lenses which are softer than primes. :)
     
  5. Doug Otte

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    I agree that 4K will never take off, but for a different reason. We're now in the same arc with picture quality that we were with sound quality when mp3 first became popular.

    The vast majority of consumers care more about convenience than quality. That's why most people just listen to blisteringly mastered pop tunes as mp3s via their earbuds, and it's why most hifi stores are gone. People don't care about, and no longer have the ear training to distinguish, quality sound recordings.

    Similarly, although people have huge screens at home, they really don't care about picture quality. They'd rather watch a video on their phone or stream low-quality Netflix vids. If they buy videos, they'd much rather pay $5.99 for a poor DVD than $9.99 for a much better blu-ray.

    So, yet another reason why I don't think we'll ever see DS9 in HD.
     
  6. Robert Comsol

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    ^^ That's what I fear, too.

    It's quite some irony: For years videophiles like myself have been upgrading step-by-step from LaserDisc to DVD to Blu-ray and from low resolution to high resolution monitor devices to get the optimal home theater experience, but with the advent and ever-increasing popularity of small handheld devices VHS SD Resolution would do for a lot of people.

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    Very surprised to find my copy in the mail today. The Dutch release was set for today, the 18th, but I just assumed it would be delayed like it has been in the UK, Germany and the US. I guess someone at Universal Benelux didn't get that message. So for the second time, us Dutchies are getting the world premiere. :lol:
     
  8. Borjis

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    4k is happening and the infrastructure to support it in broadcast and cable is well under way.
    It will become the eventual standard.

    whether or not people buy 4k tv sets is another story.
     
  9. trekker670

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    Here's a full review of the bluray set

    http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/64068/star-trek-the-next-generation-season-six/

    I found this excerpt particularly interesting

     
  10. jimbotron

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    It's not the first time there's been a TNG bonus feature dominated by DS9 discussion. It happened in the Art Department roundtable on the season 4 set.
     
  11. trekker670

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    The difference here is that the roundtable wasn't moderated and what we saw was a conversation that went off-topic, whereas this is a documentary that was specifically shot and edited to discuss DS9 (although likely emphasizing how it affected the production of TNG).
     
  12. jimbotron

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    I would imagine that's the case. If/when DS9 comes out, I'm sure the people who worked on it (exception being the writing staff, of course) will have a hard time separating DS9 and Voyager discussion.
     
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  14. ChristopherPike

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    With the contents of Season Seven hopefully in the planning, can I point out a few things CBS Digital should try and include?

    There was a TV documentary around that time called "Journey's End: The Saga of ST:TNG", which accompanied the series finale. Although aside from the Jonathan Frakes hosted bits to camera, the rest largely ended up in the archive DVD extras... Beck-Ola cast interviews and the like.

    2007 saw CBS DVD produce three bonus features for the 20th Anniversary DVD set. One with John DeLancie, another with Wil Wheaton and a roundtable discussion on FX. Probably an exclusive thing to that ugly silver & green thing but maybe easy to include, subject to disc space.
     
  15. trekker670

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    Agreed, I still have this on VHS. It would definitely be a great feature to add to the set, similar to the Reading Rainbow stuff on S1.

    Don't quote me on this, but these features have been discussed in the past, and I thought it had been confirmed that these would be included. Whether or not it was an "official" confirmation or not, I don't recall.
     
  16. Squiggy

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    They will if by the time their HDTVs crap out that's all that's available to buy.
     
  17. depp91

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    Do you remember this curiosity?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKdlQRNYuJw

    I had always hoped this would be included on one of the season sets. But since it was probably shot either during season 3, 4 or early season 5 (clues: uniform + Gene's death), I guess we won't see it on the set for season 7.
    YET I think season 7, since it's the final season, would provide a great way to include gems they "forgot" to include on earlier season sets.
     
  18. Maxwell Everett

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    I believe that can be found on disc five of season five at the end of the DVD extra "Archival Mission Log: A Tribute to Gene Roddenberry." It's in one of those DVD extras that were ported over, anyway. :)
     
  19. depp91

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    Thank you!!! Guess I haven't watched that one yet:vulcan:
    Surely, a HD remaster would have been better [okay, I'm complaining too much;)]
     
  20. Admiral Bear

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    Years ago when I bought the season 5 DVD set, I caught Patrick's song and dance routine quite by accident after watching the GR tribute. In a strange way, I found it quite creepy at first as it wasn't a listed feature, and easter eggs were still a fairly new phenomenon. But after repeated viewings, I warmed to it, but it still has a very slightly disturbing element to it, similar to the scene in Timescape where Picard starts to go a bit loopy and draws a smiley face in the frozen smoke from the warp core breach. Would be great if it exists on film, along with the Journey's End show with Frakes.