Could you elaborate on that? I do think there are more misses in S5 than there were in 3 and 4 and that it's largely due to Michael Piller focusing on developing DS9 and having less time for TNG. From the premiere to arguably "A Matter of Time", I think it's kept the consistency of the previous two seasons. Starting with "New Ground", it gets into a rough patch with episodes that while trying, do not feel as refined as the show was under Piller. During the hiatus they had to take a visit to Piller's resort in Mexico to try to figure out things. From "Conundrum" and then on I think it regains some of the consistency, with a few odd episodes like "Imaginary Friend". I brought up Season 7 as being when the show felt tired because it wasn't even trying anymore with its more cliched gimmicky pitches like "Data's mom appears", or "Picard has a bastard son". But I think BillJ what makes S5 seem tired to you is that it's no longer retaining the bombast. You always mentioned being more fond of the earlier seasons and I think that's because they have more of the sensibilities of older TV shows by being more broad and bold, especially when Ron Jones was around to really pump things up with his bombastic music. By S5 there's never an average episode like "The Arsenal of Freedom" where everyone keeps whipping out their phasers, because the show has become more talky than adventurous. I think it has worked better for TNG, because trying to be like TOS never quite worked. "The Measure of the Man" is always cited as being a highlight, and it's mostly just people talking in a room, but everything is clicking with the writing and acting. That's what TNG mostly went for from then on and I can't blame them.