scifi film noir films

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  1. MadaBidyoni

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  2. The Borgified Corpse

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    I'm not even so certain that everything on that list really qualifies as sci-fi noir. I mean, Alien Nation is more of a mis-matched buddy cop movie; more Lethal Weapon than Maltese Falcon.

    And does emo despressing sci-fi like Stargate Universe really qualify as noir?
     
  3. Sean_McCormick

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    Those seem all to be western-made live-action. I'd guess that anime has many films and series to offer, Ghost in the Shell for example. The two movies are much closer to blade runner estethically than the series, especially the second one which even has 1950ies "retro" cars.
     
  4. Greg Cox

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    Their definition of scifi noir seems a little broad. Alphaville and Blade Runner, sure, but I'm not sure about some of those others. Invasion of the Body Snatchers is great, but I would have never linked it to film noir.
     
  5. 1001001

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    The first one that came to mind was Dark City, which did make the list.

    Not sure about any others.
     
  6. Bob Morton

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    Kiss Me Deadly for a true Film-Noir with a scifi touch.

    None of the films on the list are true Noirs, in the strict sense. I'd say Bladerunner and The Terminator come close in spirit but they're in color.
     
  7. MadaBidyoni

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    Dark City was great.
    Blade runner... so-so... nice but nothing more.
    why there are so few scifi noir films?
     
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    well all the batman & watchmen are noirs too no?
     
  10. Silvercrest

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    Yes, I'm certain Adam West and George Clooney would describe their respective turns as Batman as "noir."
     
  11. MadaBidyoni

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    i'm serious :)
    it's dark... the dark knight. & about a world gone mad. sex. crime.

    btw, why the walking dead is considered as noir? it's not that dark regarding the light. there is not much sex there. crime? i don't think there is crime there. it's survival.
     
  12. Deckerd

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    Most of the ones on that list I wouldn't call noir.
     
  13. Starkers

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    Strange Days definitely. From the Wiki list I'd add in Soylent Green as well
     
  14. SalvorHardin

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    I don't know if anyone has read it but Alastair Reynolds' Century Rain would make a very good sci-fi noir film.
     
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    I've read it and yeah it would make a good sci-fi noir film. So would Reynolds' Chasm City.
     
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    A film's being "dark" in subject, on it's own, does not make it noir. Traditionally, there's an amount of melodrama (clear good/bad), a femme fatale (a woman who brings about the doom of the man), a distinct visual style, etc. Or so I was told in a couple of film classes.
     
  17. The Borgified Corpse

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    There's this weird artsy sort of sci-fi noir called Yesterday Was a Lie. It has to do with looping around on your own timeline (which, I think, is a metaphor for getting over the emotional scars of your own past). It's in black & white and certainly tries to adhere to the usual P.I. tropes. Chase Masterson plays the femme fatale. Peter Mayhew plays the guy that gets killed at the beginning.
     
  18. MadaBidyoni

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    sounds nice
    but why the low rating at imdb? :)
     
  19. T'Girl

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    I would add a general attitude of cynicalism, certainly on the part of the lead character.

    I don't know if strictly speaking the film would have to be in black and white, but visually it should be "dark" and muted.

    Raining the whole time (Blade Runner) helps.

    :)
     
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    Not sure lots of those would be film noir on that list but some that I think are: A Scanner Darkly, Naked Lunch, 1984, New Rose Hotel