Roger Ebert is dead...

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Admiral Buzzkill, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. J.T.B.

    J.T.B. Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Maybe if the reader is applying a ridiculously politically-partisan filter. There is one sentence that could be construed as pointing to personal politics, in a Glenn Beck dog-whistle kind of way: "Quinn heralded Ebert’s passion for education, social justice and working-people’s rights." Those concerns point exclusively to lefties, apparently?

    And the fact that a lot of Democratic politicians showed up at a funeral for a prominent Chicagoan is hardly surprising given the political makeup of the city.

    The article was reporting the events of the funeral, not taking an editorial position so there is really no comparison to the political axes being ground in this thread. Much less irony.
     
  2. cooleddie74

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    That word. Irony.

    I do not think it means what you think it means.
     
  3. Coloratura

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    I printed out Ebert's 300 Great Movies list, and will be going through checking off what I've seen, and then working towards seeing the rest of them.
     
  4. the G-man

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    I think you mistook my tone for disgust. I was actually amused.

    Damn.

    Now the angels wanna wear my red shoes.
     
  5. Karl Shoottheglass

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    God bless Roger Ebert, Margaret Thatcher, Carmine Infantino and Annette Funicello. None of them were perfect. Hands across America.

    Here's one thing Siskel, Ebert and I all have publicly agreed one more than once each: Pauline Kael was as good as it gets. She wasn't on television as much as her reviews were generally lengthier and livelier than anyone's, and certainly just as opinionated. Before virtually any of her peers, she was unafraid to dislike ANY film. Even SHOAH. And for one glorious year in 1983, she liked all the same movies I did.:cool:

    No defilement there. And no canonization.
     
  6. The Naughty List

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    I think you've mistaken everyone's tone for actually wanting to listen to more of your whining or "amused" commentary when in reality they'd all just prefer it if you'd shut the hell up or at least start another thread. But you're committed now so you won't do that. Can't lose face in this stupid quest to prove whatever the hell it is you're trying to prove.

    You're dragging people who plainly aren't even interested in a political debate in this case and who never got involved in the political argument before (like auntiehill) into your hyper-partisan bullshit where even someone who is only extremely peripherally related to politics like Roger Ebert is now some lightning rod of liberal thought. She was just posting a nice memorial commentary on his life that itself was only barely politically related, but you are so petty you couldn't resist making another dig.

    Ebert rarely made some political comments in relevant movie reviews and an occasional editorial. He's not Marx or even Michael Moore. Do you have to sort everything through the prism of right and left? I can understand the commentary if it was someone who was actually a prominent political figure, but Roger Ebert? Seriously? Can't you just say something nice about his movie reviews without acting like a jerk, or failing that, don't say anything at all?

    And no, in anticipation of your inevitable and no doubt annoying (if your previous comments are any indication) comeback, I don't give a shit what some liberal said in some barely conservative actor's or reviewer's memorial thread in the past. They're not me. I'm not responsible for every other liberal's comments in the past and it's not hypocrisy to point out something I disagree with even if another liberal (or conservative in your case) has done it. We're all individuals, so taking what auntiehill posted and dragging it into your or anyone else's political nonsense was out of line, as has been the entire fucking tangent about politics in this thread.

    You can try and say this post is contributing to the disrespect of a memorial thread, but that ship sailed long before I even posted, first with some pedantic fuckwittery over the perfectly acceptable title and then with people who probably can't even eat a bowl of cereal in the morning without knowing Tony the Tiger's or Count Chocula's political stances. If having to see a half-paragraph respectfully stated commentary on healthcare accessibility that doesn't denounce anyone and is in a review of a movie about healthcare makes your blood boil, then you need to get a fucking grip.
     
  7. Avon

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    it's weird to moan about a eberts 'liberal' politics while having an avatar from a show by david lynch, who votes democrat.
     
  8. Squiggy

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    Be a man and bring it to TNZ. Otherwise, stick to the topic and if you can't, shut the hell up.
     
  9. PsychoPere

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    Might I suggest considering keeping track through letterboxd? The list has been bannered at the top of the main page since Ebert's death was announced.
     
  10. barnaclelapse

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  11. Scout101

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    :lol: To be fair, Morrisette didn't understand it either. Which ends up being the only thing ironic about her song. All her examples were merely unfortunate ;)
     
  12. Coloratura

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    Ooh, nice! Thank you!
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    Yeah, it was a running joke between myself and a couple of friends back in 1995 and 1996 that the Alanis song wasn't actually about irony, just unfortunate timing and bad luck. Jagged Little Pill was a pretty great little album that we all enjoyed, but we couldn't pass up making fun of the video when it played on TV.
     
  14. A Shiny Kaylee Christmas

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    But that's where the scary liberals live. They may defeat conservative ideals with facts and reality, he can't go there.

    I need to start collecting all of Ebert's bad reviews. He could really tear into a movie if he hated it enough. His review of North is just amazing.
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Which is, of course, the real reason for objecting to someone like Ebert writing about politics: his wit and effectiveness. The kind of folks who object generally prefer fixed fights.
     
  16. A Shiny Kaylee Christmas

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    You'd think that after a while if you keep getting easily beaten by smart people you'd at least try to change things a little.
     
  17. cardinal biggles

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    He published three collections of his negative reviews: I Hated, Hated, HATED This Movie; Your Movie Sucks; and last year's A Horrible Experience of Unbearable Length. Yeah, they're all up on his website for free, but there's something about having them in print.
     
  18. A Shiny Kaylee Christmas

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    I might have to buy them. I want something to read when society collapses and be reminded of the internet.
     
  19. the G-man

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    Yes because nobody but me has ever brought up politics outside of TNZ :rommie:

    I did not moan about Eberts liberal politics.

    I discussed the hypocrisy of some posters who seemed to defend inserting politics in writing when it was a liberal viewpoint but not a conservative viewpoint.

    Never in this thread have I attacked either the man or his politics.

    The worst thing I said about Ebert on this thread was that hypothetically some people could take issue with some of his positions as strongly as some of the posters here took issue with Orson Scott Card.

    Disagree with me if you want. reasonable people can do that, but at least disagree with what I actually wrote.
     
  20. Scroogourner

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    Regardless, you've dragged the topic away from being a memorial to Ebert in order to pursue some silly agenda. Bravo, good sir. You must be a great guy to have at a funeral.