Riker's Wedding

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by NeroShrimp, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. NeroShrimp

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    When you saw Riker's wedding did you buy the Alaskan scenery for one second? I thought it was totally fake. It just seemed like a very poor matte painting. I don't know, I mean I hate to talk poorly because I love Trek but I can just tell it wasn't real. Are we supposed to believe they actually filmed on top of a mountain? I just thought it was cheesy but it screamed fake. I thought they were really indoors (even though it really was).
     
  2. 2takesfrakes

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    Picard's railing "Best Man Speech," bragging on himself, with this horrifying close-up on him, just to make sure we knew for a fact how much he had aged was not a plus for me. For another, there just wasn't anywhere near enough interaction between the married couple, at all. Also, I hated Troi's dress with a passion. It did not seem to be appropriate for someone of Deanna's years. Something more conservative should've been selected. The oddly curious "segregation" of Guinan, Geordi and Worf distracted from the overall wedding-party vibe. A lot of problems are present in this sequence ...

    ... I thought the mountains were "OK."
     
  3. Tosk

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    More conservative than her "other wedding" dress though. ;)
     
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    Quite so. It's been a while since I've viewed this gem, but I'm confident that - despite the PG-13 rating - Marina wasn't even naked for her sex scene with Wil (and Shinzon ... and The Viceroy). There was simply no way we were ever going to see a Betazoid wedding, not even in the movies. Certainly not by this time! And for that ... yes, for that, I am deeply appreciative.
     
  5. Shat Happens

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    There were mountains?
     
  6. Melakon

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    That wedding party scene was so segregated, Wesley Crusher was almost completely out of the movie.
     
  7. NeroShrimp

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    Yeah, that was pretty messed up. You'd think he would be closer to Crusher...after all she is his mom. I guess since they deleted his scenes they figured no one would see him in the far left of the screen.
     
  8. Lance

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    You know, ever since 2002 there's always been something about the way this scene is staged that has bugged me. But it isn't until now I've realized what it is: exactly the above. :techman: Sure, it's kind of reflecting the way weddings are "staged" in real-life, the bride and groom and closest members tend to sit separately from everybody else at the reception, but as presented in the movie it just feels 'off' somehow because all of the white guys are in one part of the scene and all of the black guys are in another. I'm sure they could've found a better way to be inclusive of all the regular cast members (at the least).
     
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    Two words: Bad directing. Stuart Baird's talents obviously lies in the editing room...NOT the director's chair. This film is a "How Not to Direct a film for Dummies".
     
  10. Lance

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    Absolutely. :techman: He clearly didn't have a touch for character based storytelling, certainly I recall him complaining bitterly about having to absorb the baggage of such already well-established characters, when all he really wanted was a clean slate. Nobody could have been a worse match for a feature based on The Next Generation, lest alone their final screen outing. Perhaps most telling was his complete removal of the ward room scene between Picard and Data, one of THE most crucial scenes in the telling of what these characters are going through in this story. Its like Baird went through the movie with a razor going "Ok guys, we're making an action movie here aren't we, rip the heart of it and do everything you can to de-emphasize character in favour of shooty bits and base emotion, got that? Get to work." :vulcan:
     
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    Never noticed it or bothered me one bit, to be honest I always get choked up at that scene where Picard tells them that they are his family. I think it's a decent scene.
     
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    Was it supposed to be real? Since the first viewing I took it to be nicely painted wall mural or something.
     
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    They never really said, did they? I assumed they were meant to be in Alaska, but for all we know, they're just on the holodeck.
     
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    How come Troi is wearing a dress to get married - a duty uniform was good enough in "Balance of Terror"!
     
  16. Robert Comsol

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    That's a very good question, they should be naked! :p

    TASHA: The bride and groom go naked?
    LWAXANA: All guests must go unclothed. It honours the act of love being celebrated.


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  17. NeroShrimp

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    Seriously. It's a shame that this happened. Jonathan Frakes should have directed the movie. He really understands Star Trek and it would have just been perfect for him to film the last hurrah of the series. All of the Star Trek finales...save for Voyager and Enterprise in my personal opinion...were awesome.

    TOS: Star Trek VI
    DS9: "What You Leave Behind"

    TNG: Nemesis...ugh not cool. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  18. B.J.

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    I'd never noticed before, but that railing behind the main cast in that second shot, to me, echoes the railing from the E-D. If true, that's kinda neat (even though they've been on the E-E for a while).
     
  19. NeroShrimp

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    I was just about to say that, haha! It looks like Riker's in the captain's chair. Hahah! I love it! :rommie:
     
  20. Kevman7987

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    Bah! They should be nude anyway...