Revolution - season 1 part 2 -

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  1. tighr

    tighr Commodore Commodore

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    Pretty sure she trusts him because he gave her a bunch of secrets.

    But of course, we the viewer know he's an asshole.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Elected people are given power politely, and Princesses are born to be Queens... A serious question is how many females have taken power through force in history?

    Boadicea?

    They called her a queen, but really she was just a savage in charge of couple dozen thatched hut villages who didn't understand what Rome was.

    Of course that's back when women had to beat a man in a knife fight. Which isn't difficult for someone with the correct training... But guns levelled the playing field. A woman with a gun is just as dangerous as man with a gun.

    Joan of Arc was "just" a General, but the King was a boy who didn't do shit.

    Leslie Hope could have been easily elected into power, or she could have financially bought the presidency, or the presidency could fall to the most influential business person, or she could have killed thousands of men and women with a machine gun earning her throne on top of a million polished skulls just like Munroe with sweat and blood.

    I'm sorry?

    What's the argument?
     
  3. Caliburn24

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    I know they tried to cover this with a line of two of quick dialogue at the end of the episode. But it still makes no sense. Neville spilling Monroe's secrets means he is no longer loyal to Monroe. It does not automatically make him loyal to Georgia. And the leader of any country should be smart enough to recognize that.
     
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  4. JD

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    I might have misinterpreted thing, but I got the impression that he was her spy. Although now that I think about it more, it might be that he changed sides after he went on the run.
     
  5. Morpheus 02

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    I think the other thing is...she knows the two have been enemies after being friends....so they are the best combination to keep each other in check. We see what happened when she tried to assign a regular babysitter to Miles.
     
  6. Marten

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    I got that feeling too. She did call him by his first name, right? Would she do that if they just met eachother?
     
  7. sojourner

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    Calling someone by their first name can also be interpreted as a show of power over that person.
     
  8. tighr

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    Miles and Neville were never friends.
     
  9. JD

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    I also remember thinking that it sounded like it was something that had been going on for a while, not something that had just happened.
     
  10. DarthTom

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    Quite frankly and living here in Georgia - I find it more amazing that Jimmy Carter was once Governor of this state as opposed to a hardass conservative woman.
     
  11. DarthTom

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    I understand everything you're saying Scout101 and I could provide numerous examples of where Trek-nobabble expalins away even theoritical science today with nonsense.

    The larger point is - as a viewer of sci-fi fantasy when are people willing to suspend their disbelief and not when it comes to plot devices to make the story work.

    By making the 'magic,' nanites at least IMO makes the whole electricity out thing some what plausible and within the realm of modern science. Yes there are some discontunities within the nanite supposition [e.g. lightening] but no more than IMO the multiple discontunities within Trek itself and its faux science.

    How many times in Trek did we see the magical engineering solution of the week solve a major plot problem only forgotten about 3 episodes later which could have solved a similar problem? Where are the howls from the Trek fan base for some sense of conssitency within the Trek universe itself?

    In any case, the nanites don't present a problem for me - nor that they can cure people from severe illness. It's already within the realm of theorticial science today that tiny robots will one day be performing micro surgery. It only takes a little larger leap of disbelief to believe they can also block electricial current.
     
  12. tighr

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    Nanites = midichlorians.

    'Nuff said.
     
  13. Rhaven

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    So, that explains it! lol
     
  14. DarthTom

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    :lol: Well force lightening isn't coming out of Nevill's finger tips yet - so not quite.
     
  15. Caliburn24

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    Heh, that would be one way to retool the show for season two. Season one ends with all the characters failing to bring the power back on, and most dying in the attempt.

    Season two opens a hundred years later. Guns are gone, ammunition ran out decades ago. Certain individuals have mental abilities which allow them to use the nanites. For the general population it appears to be magic.

    Straight up swords and sorcery show.
     
  16. JD

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    ^That could actually be pretty cool.
     
  17. tighr

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    I'll take an Executive Producer credit for the idea. Is my royalty check in the mail, NBC?
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    So from what I read some one said in this thread a couple weeks ago, this show was supposed to be about the brother and sister stomping on the last generation, but the writing got out of control and veered away or the kids tested too poorly once phase two began?

    What we got is not the product NBC signed off on from first principles.

    Weird, huh?
     
  19. Yoda

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    The kids are bad but who can look at that lifeless lump sheriff from the Twilight movies and think he's any better?

    Not much to say about this week's episode. I have to say that is probably the most gratuitous abuse of the "show something followed by X units of time earlier text" trope I've seen in a while.
     
  20. sojourner

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    Miles Matheson is the only thing that makes the show worth watching.