Reports of explosions at 2013 Boston Marathon

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  1. Snaploud

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    On the other hand: he probably got hurt by one of the Watertown police during last night's car chase. The media is reporting that he has a gun-shot wound. *shrugs*
     
  2. gturner

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    I hadn't heard that, but it's not surprising. I'm sure the police are also going to take a look to see if there are any persons of interest at their mosque.
     
  3. bigdaddy

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    If they had better aim he would have been dead 20 hours ago.
     
  4. Bumbles861

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    Well done. When you look at the timeline from the explosion point onward - the death and capture did not take as long as I thought it would. Good detective work, and marvelous help from the public. The legal process from here on in will likely be lengthy.
     
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  5. Ríu ríu chíu

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    I feel sorry for the defense attorney that has to take this asshole's case.
     
  6. Tora Ziyal

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    Sleep well tonight, Boston!

    I'm glad he was caught alive.
     
  7. gturner

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    I feel sorry for the future tenure committee that has to decide if he gets a full professorship.
     
  8. Karl Shoottheglass

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    From an earlier recent statement by Big Daddy:

    And the press conference is....
    "We fucked up. We have no clue where the terrorist is, or how the fuck we missed hitting him last night. Our bad, go about your way." - Mass State Police

    That makes me feel safe.


    Would you care to amend said statement? I admit when I heard the curfew was being lifted, with no solid reports of a capture at the time, that didn't sit well at the time. Could it have been a tactic of some kind?

     
  9. Collingwood Nick

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    Thats great news, I can finally get some sleep now
     
  10. gturner

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    Now this is funny. It looks like an FBI agent had climbed halfway over a tall wrought iron gate with a spiky top when it just swung open, so the other agent just walked on past. It might be an animated GIF in your future.
     
  11. not

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    He wasn't mirandized because of a "public safety exception"; I'm wondering if it will be an issue at trial
     
  12. Ríu ríu chíu

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    Since that exception is allowed under the law, I doubt its use could be exploited by the defense in that way.
     
  13. gturner

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    Yep. That'll be a problem. There is no public safety exception to the Miranda warning. Anything he says will be inadmissible, as will anything discovered as a result.
     
  14. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Actually, yes, there is.
     
  15. not

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    I wanted to check if it has ever been challenged; is it part of the Patriot act?
     
  16. Ríu ríu chíu

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  17. Snaploud

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    It comes from a 1980 Supreme Court decision called New York v. Quarles:

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/february2011/legal_digest
     
  18. gturner

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    Ah, the Supreme Court added one in 1980. :)

    They'll still have to be very careful to stay within its guidelines, but I'd assume the police doing the questioning are the top of the field.
     
  19. not

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    Was this a "kaleidoscopic situation"? The police had control of the area, unlike a grocery store or a public space. I'm not so sure his lawyers will not argue this because it will likely be a death penalty case -
     
  20. gturner

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    That sounds like a horrible case for carving such an exception. The suspect dumped his gun in a grocery aisle and that created an immediate threat to public safety? It's not like a pistol in a pile of broccoli is going to get up and start shooting people, unlike a bomb with a timer.

    Was the gun a clear threat to public safety, or were the police just feeling too lazy to go search for all the evidence, reaching behind all the cereal boxes and canned goods and creating a terrible mess to cleanup on aisle 3? If a gun in a store is such a dire and immediate threat to public safety, then why are gun stores with whole shelves of them such a safe place for police and the public to hang out?

    The current incident would be a much, much better case for establishing such an exception.