Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by dub, Sep 30, 2013.
I went to the bank and was waited on by a very sexy and playful teller. She was really cool. Anyway, I didn't think anything beyond that, too much, when suddenly, I realized that over the course of the day afterwards, I just kept thinking about her. I'm like, "what in the hell is it?" Then, I kept wondering if it was because, maybe, I knew her, some way? Well, long story made short, finally it hit me: She looked just like Voyager-era Roxann Dawson!!! Funny, how I didn't realize it, at the time, considering that the resemblance was so striking. I guess I just wasn't expecting it ...
Wouldn't it have been hilarious if you'd asked her some bank question and she had bellowed "PETAQ! STAND BEFORE ME WITH YOUR PUNY PAPERS AND DIE!"
I find it unlikely that STAR TREK was even on her radar. I'd have been in shock over someone so hot and amiable knowing Klingonese even existed, much less bothering to learn it. I would've been like, "you poor girl! You really have had a life and a half, haven't you?" Now, with a Sarah Silverman look-alike, I'd make the connection, right away. And if I'd had, some-how, been able to get with her, then I'd become a certified sex addict, no question about it. What therapy is involved in the recovery process of that affliction, one can only speculate ... now, there's something to ponder over ...
I like how your relationship with a Silverman look alike is automatically assumed to fail
I didn't know where else to put this, because it doesn't deserve its own thread, but ...
There's a VOYAGER episode where there are supposedly direct decendents of Hadrosaur Dinosaurs from Earth who evolved there and developed space travel. The astroid impact that killed the rest of the dinosaurs also destroyed all evidence of Hadrosaur technology. This episode was so idiotic on so many level, not the least of which was their choice of dinosaur! Hadrosaurs weren't particularly bright ... and they were plains grazers, to boot! GRAZING ANIMALS!!! What kind of audience are corny episodes like this aimed after? So much for STAR TREK being SCIENCE fiction ...
Diane Carey wrote that story first in her Novel First Frontier, maybe it was better, maybe it wasn't.
They may not have been hadrosaurs. that was just the last common ancestor the space dino's shared with human beings, which suggests that the space dino's were also distant relatives of the space dinos in the other direction.
The ep. is based on some rather novel ideas that you really don't have to accept. The Hadrosaurus was here 87 million years ago but it only required less then 10 millenia to develop a technology. Certainly none of this has to do with mankind's evolution. One of North America's leading dinosaurs, the Hadrosaurus was discovered in the middle of the 19 century in New Jersey. They uncovered almost a full skeleton but with no head.
This means the Voth's in Distant Origin steadily developed a more superior technology for 87 million years. They should be awfully dumb.
They claim to have 20 million years of written history, but still need religion to explain everything and keep things orderly.
Thank you for your input and observations, gentlemen. It's worth noting, however, dinosaurs are still with us, as in the birds. And even the Ostriche, which is a decent sized dinosaur, has a brain smaller than its eye. Dinosaurs are just not a good pick for evolving intelligence, I'm sorry.
I do have a ####ed up theory.
They were Changelings.
Why else cast Salome Jens?
Would you have been happier if they were some offshoot Ape ancestor of ours and became Space Kromaggs?
Anwar, I'm not really sure what I would've preferred, to be totally honest with you. But a hadrosaur evolving into a sentient, space-faring race is no more believable than it happening to a hoofed animal, like a bison. It's almost an insult to the audience's intelligence.
Now, I understand - in fact, I share - many people's fascination with dinosauria. I am very interested in finding fossils, as a hobby, it's most satisfying. Although, here in Pennsylvania, we have dinosaur tracks, rather than dinosaurs, because the dirt their fossils could be found in have been pushed up and eroded away by mountains, hills and forests. What we have though, in abundance are dinosaur tracks and the fossils of animals which proceeded them.
In any case, I would've preferred it if they invented some other lifeform, altogether, from the dinosaurian era and used that, instead. After all, the fossil record is incomplete. It always will be incomplete, because many dinosaurs did not spend most of their time in sentiment with a preference towards fossilization. And, at least, making up their own species would involve, you know ... a little more imagination. Come on, let's see what they taught you writers in Screenplays 101!
They make up a new alien species, then they lose the "Earth as common origin" plot point which is what the entire plot hinged upon.
I'm puzzled by something:
Seska told The Emergency Medical Hologram that she'd impregnated herself with Chakotay's DNA. However, The Doctor informed her that this effort was unsuccessful and that her son was half Kazon, instead. Chicks are getting pregnant every day, in all kinds of ways: A bottle of Whisky & a Friday night ... From the toilet seat in a Burger King bathroom ... what-have-you. So, my question is this: how - OK? - how could she have screwed it up? She didn't need to be that brilliant to get herself knocked up ...
Yes she did the turkey baster thing with Chakotay's man gumbo, but she simply didn't catch. She was also having regular booty calls with bad perm dude as part of her manipulation strategy, he's the one who knocked her up.
She really thought it was Chokotay's, but if you're the pass around sex toy at a fraternity kegger, there no telling.
I assumed that she was already pregnant by the time she flushed herself with Chuckle's chucklets.
No sluttiness required.
This theory is sound. Now, I know all the girls love the big guy and therefore, his masculinity can never be questioned, but ... it's possible that he could be shooting blanks, also.
I would be curious to know how Seska collected and maintained his seed, exactly. Was it a Monica Lewinsky type of thing? Personally, I always suspected that she collected "Chuckles' chucklets" from a spent condom. I can picture the scene:
She spies the spent condom on the floor, slipping out from betwixt the sheets with Chakotay, wearing clothes, surprisingly, despite just having done The Deed. She approaches it and looks down. The camera angles here would be very reminiscent of Fellowship of The Ring, when Gandalf saw the One Ring left on the floor by Bilbo ... trying to pick it up. Seska smirks to herself as she collects her prize, "I've got plans for you." But yeah, sleeping around, otherwise was, indeed, the Wild Card she had not intended.
Oh clever Seska, she knows how to put the coochie in acoochimoya..
(This happened on camera. You just forgot that it happened.)
Chakotay was tied to a chair.
She had an old school syringe.
Rammed the pointy end into his sack.
Pulled the plunger back, and drained him.
Then wandered off to find some place private.
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