Question for Rick Sternbach re: Mars Defense Perimeter drones

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  1. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Hello Mr. Sternbach, if you're reading this...

    I know that you built the Mars Defense Perimeter ship seen in "BoBW" from a Typhoon-class submarine kit and two smaller-scale Los Angeles-class subs for the nacelles. My question is, what was the piece used for the nacelle pylons and dorsal structure? I'm thinking of building a replica of the ship, but I haven't got a clue what you used. :)

    Thanks for any info you can provide.
     
  2. Boris Skrbic

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    Do you have a clear photo of the final model?
     
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  4. Shik

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    Those are wings, or at least the ends of them. From what, I've no idea...but those are wings.
     
  5. Dukhat

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    Are you asking me or Rick? Because I certainly don't have photos except for screencaps.

    Thanks, but that diagram is extremely inaccurate to the actual model. Here's the best screencap of the model, when it was used as the soliton wave rider:

    http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100131201133/memoryalpha/en/images/3/33/Soliton_wave_rider.jpg

    As you can see, the nacelles and the dorsal structure don't look anything like that diagram.

    Yeah, but what bugs me is that they curve downward into those humps that top the Los Angeles subs. Those parts don't look familiar to me at all.
     
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  6. publiusr

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    Did they have a Warbird model available then? Maybe a part of the Warbirds wings on the top middle hacked a bit?
     
  7. sojourner

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    I think the lines are too straight to be from the warbird. My best guess is paired Excelsior pylons with styrene sheeting in between to make them look like one piece.
     
  8. Dukhat

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    There wasn't an Excelsior model kit in existence at the time of BoBW.
     
  9. sojourner

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    No? When did the first one come out?
     
  10. Dukhat

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    BoBW was filmed in 1990; the vinyl kit of the Excelsior wasn't produced until 1993, and the AMT Excelsior model kit wasn't produced until 1994.
     
  11. Shik

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    Yeah, I'm guessing it's styrene or some other form of molded plastic.
     
  12. Rick Sternbach

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    Aside from the sub hulls, everything else was scratch-built from sheet styrene and spares-box fiddly bits. It's amazing what you can do with some Evergreen sheet and an X-acto. And a lot of 180 to 600 grit emery paper. :)

    Rick
     
  13. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    ^ So true. I made a Nebula class pod from the outer rim of a scrap Enterprise E saucer, flat stock, HO scale boxcar doors, an N scale locomotive shell and other fiddly bits.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Albertese

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    I've always wanted to see good pics of this one. What I've wondered, is if the flat pylons turn down to get to the Los Angeles sub nacelles, or if the flat pylons attach to the subs conning towers?

    --Alex
     
  15. Dukhat

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    Thanks for answering my question, Mr. Sternbach! Unfortunately that doesn't help me with building the model, as I'm afraid I'm not as adept a modelmaker that I'd be able to replicate the parts just with sheet styrene. Oh well.
     
  16. Shat Happens

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    What was done withthe model? Did it end in one of those auction sites? maybe they have good pictures.
     
  17. Dukhat

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    To my knowledge, the model was never auctioned off. As a matter of fact, the only kitbashed model ever to be auctioned was the Voyager/Maquis kitbash U.S.S. Yeager from Deep Space Nine.
     
  18. Albertese

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    I'd love to build one of these. Are the two classes of submarine the same scale?

    --Alex
     
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