Quantum of Solace - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Agent Richard07, Oct 27, 2008.

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Grade the movie...

  1. Excellent

    22.3%
  2. Above Average

    41.7%
  3. Average

    23.0%
  4. Below Average

    8.6%
  5. Poor

    4.3%
  1. Zeppster

    Zeppster Commodore Commodore

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    Goldfinger isn't one of my favorites. The humor in the last 2 bond films has been there but not as blatant and in some ways as stupid as some of the other Bonds of the past.
     
  2. David cgc

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    For instance, I loved when Bond teased the Quantum people at the opera, just to provoke them into panicking and drawing attention to themselves.

    And, of course, the reactions to his apparent inability to actually capture anyone. "I try not to dwell on the past."
     
  3. Trekker4747

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    Yeah, I enjoyed both of those moments as well.

    There's a lot to like in the new movie but, for me, it just "misses something" that truly makes it James Bond.

    A heart-stoppingly hot Bond chick is one thing this movie missed.
     
  4. Zeppster

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    There's only been about 2 or 3 Bond films with a real heart-stoppingly hot chick.
     
  5. Trekker4747

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    Probably, but at the same time this chick was, for me, kind of... 'Wait... she's the Bond Girl?"

    The red-haired woman who came to retrieve Bond was closer to a "Bond Girl" than the actual "Bond Girl" in this movie.
     
  6. CorporalClegg

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    And she was kind of emo. Blech.

    No kidding. Hard to believe she was born with defects.
     
  7. Trekker4747

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    :confused:
     
  8. archeryguy1701

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    ^She either has 12 fingers or 12 toes... I can't remember which.
     
  9. Trekker4747

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    Reading up on her, she was born with 12 fingers, the extra ones were removed not long after her bith. I think it also said she was born with an ear that wasn't formed right... or something. Also fixed when she was young.

    Result: One hot woman.

    Hell, I think she'd be HOTTER with 12 fingers. Just that much more of her to love.

    ;)
     
  10. trevanian

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    She could give you the finger and still have one in reserve.
     
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  12. Jax

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    Am re-watching QoS and as I thought it makes for a better re-watch value and easier to follow the plot but still could be tighter. So far only real scene that bugs me is the parachute one because he pulls it far too late, a few seconds earlier would of been much more believeable and shows me that Marc Foster is nowhere near the director Campbell is for Bond movies anyway. However saying that I thought Foster did excellent work with the fight scenes especially the last fight scenes in the hotel and the Bond girl (though she didn't shag bond which made a good change) was probably the best and that wasn't easy to do because Vesper was a good character.

    I like the Bourne esq fights, Bond needs to change from the older films and I don't buy the people saying it should be like older Bond...CR proved them wrong. I like Bond being more bitter for this movie, he has real excuse but am sure he will be back to a more normal Bond in the next movie.
     
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  13. Broccoli

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    Damn...and here I was hoping that douche died a horrible, horrible death.
     
  14. Ceridwen

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    Damn, I couldn't disagree with that review more.
     
  15. CaptJimboJones

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    Jesus Christ, what a moron. He doesn't even understand the difference between "symbolism" and "homage."
     
  16. CorporalClegg

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    No idea who the guy is, but that has to be one of the most uneducated reviews I've ever read in my life. Everything he wrote made him sound like he 12 and totally ill-represented the movie. And I didn't even really like it.

    Then that whole thing with the title just made him sound like an ignorant buffoon.
     
  17. SalvorHardin

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    Wow!
    What asylum did this guy escape from ?:wtf:
     
  18. Zeppster

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    I agree with all this. I think after it goes on DVD and people start watching it a few times, it gets better after more than one or two views.
     
  19. trevanian

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    Much as I disagree with this MADDOX on QOS, I actually like the way he represented his views (and he does have a few valid points, though most of them are a set-up to make him look smart.)

    He just doesn't realize that the producers are to fault for this thing, not the director. If they'd avoided hiring a second editor to massacre the action, the whole thing would probably work better than it does (as good as it can, considering the arrow-through-the-head-before-going-into-battle that is casting Daniel Craig as James Bond instead of casting him as 'villain's 2nd henchman' or 'Felix Leiter.')
     
  20. JacksonArcher

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    I honestly had no problem with the editing. I know many people have, including my own friend who I saw it with a second time a while back, but for me I have no problem catching everything that is happening between all the quick cuts.

    After seeing the film twice now, I can say my opinion hasn't really changed. It holds very well on a second viewing, and while there weren't any new details I could unearth, I was able to absorb the action more and the smaller moments between Bond & M or Bond & Camille.

    I still can't pinpoint why exactly people dislike this movie. I saw this for the second time with my friend & his girlfriend; she liked it more than him, and interestingly enough trevanian, my friend raised the same point that you did: If this Bond is suppose to actually care about not killing, then why does he kill every time he's in a fisticuffs?

    I think he kills so much in Casino Royale because he feels like he has to, and he kills so much in Quantum of Solace because he's exacting revenge. I think it's an evolution of the character, going from killing out of necessity to killing out of desire. I think both movies make a big deal out of, and for a reason.

    Anyway, I'm going to see it today, again, for the third time. I'll likely re-explore some of these topics and points when I see it again, but I watch this, and I think about it, and then I go back to a movie like Live and Let Die, which I saw again recently on TV, and I can't get past a Bond who quips and looks, in all honesty, like a pansy. The Bond I read in Fleming's books was a callous, cold-hearted bastard, and I really think Daniel Craig captures that in his films.
     

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