Proto matter and red matter ??

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Nero's Shadow, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. Nero's Shadow

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    Just watched TSFS again and i noticed that savvik and David where discussing the genesis affect to the planet and David admitted that he had used the dangerous substance proto matter in the experiment. I'm wondering if red matter is the same substance that spock try use to stop the supernova in trek 09 seems realistic don't you think ??
     
  2. Ketrick

    Ketrick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I don't think they're the same. Protomatter was said to be unstable (probably in the explosive sense), not that it created artificial black holes. If memory serves, protomatter was in the explosive the Bashir changeling tried to use to destroy the Bajoran sun. However, the two substances may be related.
     
  3. King Daniel Beyond

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    Other than the word "matter" in the name, they're nothing alike. Trek's also dabbled with Dark Matter (a real... well, hypothetical real thing) in Voyager.

    According to the novelverse (DTI: Watching the Clock), Red Matter was discovered in 2383, and at that time had only been synthesized in microscopic quantities. And they didn't actually know how a runaway chain reaction of any significant quantity would would end.
     
  4. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    They're both variant forms of handwavium, also known as phlebotinum.
     
  5. EyalM

    EyalM Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    And don't forget anti-matter.
     
  6. Joker

    Joker Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hmm.
     
  7. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They are two distinct plot macguffins.
     
  8. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

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    And uncle matter.
     
  9. Gojira

    Gojira Commodore Commodore

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    You beat me too it! :techman:
     
  10. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Not to mention plotdeviceum.
     
  11. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Commodore Commodore

    Wouldn't that be Uncky-matter?
     
  12. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    Unobtainium.

    Doesntmatter.
     
  13. YellowSubmarine

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    If proto-matter is related to matter in the same way proto-planet is related to planet, then dark matter, red matter and chocolate matter are all made out of proto-matter.
     
  14. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    What about Upsidaisium?
     
  15. Ovation

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    That only works in light, happy places, not dark ones. Sorry.