Prometheus: Ridley Scott returns to Sci-Fi

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  1. Gov Kodos

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    I love the space suit designs. The gloves and wrist sections look a bit power ranger, but overall a very nice streamlined look.
     
  2. Lonemagpie

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    Confirmed as R rated in the US, and 15 uncut in the UK, BTW.
     
  3. SalvorHardin

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  4. Kegg

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    Prometheus is basically one of two franchise films I was really looking forward to this year (the other being The Hobbit, and a certain franchise occupied the third tier before it was moved to 2013) and these pictures and the trailers I've half-caught certainly do not disappoint. It's very Alien, and that's my favourite of the Alien movies anyhow as well as one of my favourite sci-fi films generally.

    Likewise.
     
  5. Samurai8472

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    Nice little comparison

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  6. RAMA

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    I try not to go with the obvious...but my god Charlize looks amazing.
     
  7. Beagleman

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    No doubt about that but personally Noomi really does it for me...
     
  8. JD

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    Yeah, maybe it's just me but they're almost a little retro looking IMO. I don't think they would be totally out of place in a sci-fi movie from the 50s or 60s. And to me that's a good thing.
     
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    I don't think those suits look much like we could have seen in the '50s or '60s. Nice design though.
     
  10. Timby

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    It's more that sci-fi films, in addition to being comparatively expensive, are already a niche market segment (there's a reason the ads have been playing up that Scott is the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator, not Alien), and R-rated films, generally speaking, don't make nearly as much bank as their lesser-rated counterparts. Of the top twenty grossing films in 2011, only two -- The Hangover Part II and Bridesmaids -- were R-rated, and those were comedies with broad audience appeal. An R-rated science fiction / body horror film is considered less likely to be a box-office success.
     
  11. Set Harth

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    Because Blade Runner isn't a sci-fi film?

    And don't you think the ads are playing up Alien in ways other than showing the word "Alien" on the screen?
     
  12. Timby

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    Blade Runner doesn't have the stigma of the last three entries in the franchise being God-awful. Fox was very deliberate to avoid any sort of direct link to Alien outside of promotions over the last couple of months, and for good reason -- by positioning Prometheus as its own thing, the studio was able to start the build and avoid people saying, "Oh, fuck, another one? Weren't the two Alien vs. Predator movies bad enough?"

    There's been a definite slow burn; now that they're mimicking the original Alien trailer (and using that siren), the connection is becoming a little more clear-cut.
     
  13. nvek86

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    The first clip of the film has been released.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5bTz4FURAk

    It doesn't show much (and I actually have the feeling that they cut something from the middle), but it looks very good.
     
  14. Tom Servo

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    Ya, something was cut out of the middle there. Janek jumps all over the bridge with the way it was cut now, plus it seems way too short.

    This movie is going to be awesome.
     
  15. Timby

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    There are bits and pieces that I'm not thrilled with so far, largely some very specific aspects of the design (and I wish the trailers hadn't gotten so spoileriffic over the last couple of months). Specifically, I'm not crazy about the suits, but they do have a definite lineage from the Alien ones, particularly when looking at the shoulder pauldrons. The bigger issue for me is the color palette of the inside of the Prometheus itself, which still feels overly bright.

    In any event, I'm still ridiculously excited. That being said, Ridley Scott has always been a better designer than director. At least half of Blade Runner is him playing with his own toys, yet it somehow works because they're fucking amazing toys, so I'll wait till the film is out to judge the look, since Scott usually knows what he wants and he tends to be right more often than not. (Also, science fiction brings out his artistic side like there's no tomorrow, and he's insanely controlling of his art departments.)
     
  16. davejames

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    Hmm, I know it's heavily edited, but at the moment it kinda feels more like an Avatar sequel than something from the quiet and eerie Alien universe.

    Hopefully the actual movie will be a bit slower and more atmospheric...
     
  17. Tom Servo

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    While I do see the issue people have brought up with the overly "bright" art direction, I see the explanation as twofold. First, despite the fact that this takes place before Alien, the Nostromo was essentially a space tractor-trailer, and I think the clunky suits and the dark industrial interior of that ship is a reminder of that fact. These guys were the working class, and wouldn't have top of the line...well anything. The Prometheus meanwhile is a state of the art research ship, so it would make sense that it would have sophisticated new technology and accessories.

    IIRC Scott himself directly addressed the issue with the design in an interview, and stated that he thought the whole "used future" had been overdone since the time he made "Alien" and that he wanted to go in a different direction.

    One thing to remember as well, is that Scott stated early on in the filmmaking process, that he had to over light the sets, since the 3D cameras needed more light then the cameras he used on Alien. IIRC he said that they would be doing some lighting changes with CG in post production. How much of that work has been represented in the trailers I do not know, but it's something to look out for.
     
  18. MacLeod

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    Well the BBFC has given it a 15 rating, the other 'Alien' I think all got 18 ratings. Running time 123m 36s.

    So is this the cut the same as the US 'R' version or is it an international cut.

    Though the version submitted to the BBFc passed with no cuts.

    http://www.bbfc.co.uk/CFF286710/
     
  19. MacLeod

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    Quiet and errie as in "Aliens" with it's fire fights?
     
  20. Timby

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    There's definitely some influence from Avatar -- the sickbay feels like a poor man's take on that design, and on other sets, the neon paneling and the hazard tape being fucking everywhere is really hurting the look for me. Subtlety is key, and it's kind of being lost in some sort of strive for so-called realism. In Alien, the Nostromo and its design and direction conveys just as much narrative, context and subtext as does the rampage of the penis rape machine alien savaging the crew.
     

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