PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Roshi, May 30, 2012.

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Prometheus - Poll

Poll closed May 30, 2013.
  1. A +

    6.9%
  2. A

    11.6%
  3. A -

    13.8%
  4. B +

    18.5%
  5. B

    14.2%
  6. B -

    9.1%
  7. C +

    8.2%
  8. C

    3.4%
  9. C -

    6.5%
  10. D

    5.2%
  11. F

    2.6%
  1. Starbreaker

    Starbreaker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    If you go into the mindset of hating this movie, you're going to hate it. All the arguing in the world can't convince somebody to like something they're intent on hating. I mean, nitpicking picking effects in the first minutes... whatever.

    My Blu-ray came in the mail yesterday. Amazon had a great deal on Cyber Monday. I got the 3D version in anticipation of getting a 3DTV this coming summer. There are over 4 hours of extras on the special features disk. They're mostly great. There are a couple of vignettes that I found useless, but I still set down and watched everything in one sweep.

    The deleted scenes are interesting. They're actually finished shots that were trimmed from the movie. No animatics or grainy video.

    I'm watching the movie right now. I plan on listening to the commentaries and then using the second screen app later. This release is jam-packed with stuff, which I really love.

    I think I gave the movie a B+ equivalent when I saw it in theaters because of some of the stuff I really didn't understand, but except for the idiot scientist who started poking at the alien snake, the movie makes more sense to me now.

    The picture and audio on the Blu-ray are great. Highly recommended from me.
     
  2. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    ^^^ Good to hear, and is what I was hoping would be the case. I'll be getting mine soon.
     
  3. Professor Zoom

    Professor Zoom Vice Admiral Admiral

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    But what if you go to the movie thinking, hey, this is going to be great? And it turns out: the movie is a piece of shit?

    I really wanted to like the movie... I really did...
     
  4. Pingfah

    Pingfah Admiral Admiral

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    I would think the majority of people going into a Ridley Scott sci-fi movie would be expecting it to be great, I certainly was as well.
     
  5. Professor Zoom

    Professor Zoom Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Exactly. If you were disappointed, who knows WHEN that might happen... it could be at the beginning, it could be in the middle... who knows...? But because someone was disappointed, doesn't mean they went in HOPING to hate it...
     
  6. Bob The Skutter

    Bob The Skutter Complete Arse Cleft Premium Member

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    I went in to it hoping for a good film. I certainly didn't go in expecting to hate the film and I came out very disappointed in the film and then got more and more disappointed and liked it less and less the more I thought about it.
     
  7. Starbreaker

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    There's a difference in being disappointed and nitpicking though. I didnt like the plot.vs. I didnt like the font choice on the computer screen. Epic Fail Flop!
     
  8. Bob The Skutter

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    Who nitpicked fonts? No-one. People nitpicked all sorts of things but I don't think a lot of it was to do with effects or design.
     
  9. DarthTom

    DarthTom Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Meh. Not on the same level that Star Trek Nemesis was - at least for me. Prometheus had a lot of problems as some have said - notably the bad acting from virtually everyone save the Robot. But as least they didn't cast what appeared to be a French runway model to play the younger version of Captain Picard and try to write a script making him and his sidekick Remen protege [who BTW can mind read and simulate rape Diana] the bad guys in the most unbelievable and poorly written Trek film/show since Voygers Treshold or TOS Spock's Brain
     
  10. Starbreaker

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    I used the font as an extreme example. stj said he couldn't make it past two scenes because of a DNA graphic and a futuristic dating tool that is literally seen for 15 seconds.
     
  11. DarthTom

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    The problem for Scott IMO isn't that Prometheus is such an epically bad film - measured against some epically bad films as I noted with Nemesis - but rather that he has to compete against his own masterpieces and people's expectations that he produce a masterpiece every time.

    Blade Runner and Aliens for many sci-fi fans [like myself] were ground breaking films by any metric. So when Prometheus came out and it had some issues people conflated that with making the film an 'epic failure,' etc.

    I didn't love Prometheus - and as others have said the visuals in the film were stunning - but I didn't hate it either. But to hold Ridley Scott to crank out the same masterpieces every single time the film rolls, is IMO an unfair expectation and one that he inevitably would have failed at regardless.
     
  12. Starbreaker

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    After listening to the screenwriters' commentary, I like this movie a lot more. Apparently, Ridley cut several scenes explaining David's motivations. He was experimenting with the organisms hoping to find something that would extend Weyland's life at the expense of everyone else.

    And there was a scene cut where dumbass snake guy explains his love for xenobiology.
     
  13. Professor Zoom

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    Things like font start getting nitpicked when the rest of the movie is shit. By the time I start complaining about the font, its because its on the LIST of complaints. If a movie has really disappointed me, I eventually get around to complain about small things.

    I'm willing to forgive the small stuff if the overall stuff is worth the price of admission.
     
  14. Shurik

    Shurik Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I went to this movie with very high expectations. I didn't read the reviews, I didn't read spoilers (which is rare for me because I'm a spoiler junkie), all I knew is that it was some sort of an Alien prequel and that Ridley Scott was directing it.

    It turned out to be the most disappointing movie of the year and it's high on my list of the worst movies I've ever seen. It's definitely the worst movie I've paid to see in cinema, beating even Matrix:Reloaded.
     
  15. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, he did cut them. I can't have an opinion on a different version of the film when none exist. As it is, Prometheus is a disappointing mess, and I don't really care if Ridley Scott had good intentions.
     
  16. Base_Delta_Zero

    Base_Delta_Zero Commodore Commodore

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    ^Yes, this! to both the above posts. I wanted this movie to be awesome. I was ready for it to rock me. Anything that even hints of connection to the Alienverse grabs my attention.

    Then my dream of another Ridley Scott homerun became a horrible nightmare that looked really pretty and well made technically (except for the old Mr. Weyland Riteaid Halloween mask), but poorly acted and scripted with one WTF moment after another. The cut scenes may very well explain some of the rampant stupidity of the theatrical release, but that won't change the fact Scott fucked things up royally for me. The only movie I can think of that I walked out of more depressed and disappointed at the wasted opportunity of reinvigorating a franchise was The Phantom Menace.

    I prayed that Scott had been forced to do really stupid things to the final cut by studio pressure like with Kingdom of Heaven and that another director's cut restoring lost plot lines and story beats could turn a disastrous theatrical release into a DVD masterpiece. That doesn't seem to be the case, though.

    Oh, well. More's the pity. I'm over it.
     
  17. Scout101

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    Just screwed up such obvious things, like translating what David said to the Engineer that resulted in the entire disaster at the end. Without having that translation on screen, he just goes nuts for no reason, everyone dies, the end.

    Yeah, I've seen the summary of what it was supposed to be, and what they meant by it, but why the hell wouldn't you SHOW some of that in the movie, so people could maybe understand why things ended like they did? Just random horror-porn without it...
     
  18. Triple-F

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    Can't argue with that.
     
  19. Professor Zoom

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    I can. This wasn't about someone who in the past has made a masterpiece and didn't live up to the bar that he set for himself. This was a poorly told story.

    [internet nerd voice] Brett Ratner could've done better. [/internet nerd voice]
     
  20. Flavius

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    The 3D blue-ray just arrived today. I going to watch it for a second time this weekend. I don't think, though, that my opinion about it is going to change much - one of his weak films, with some serious flaws and stunning visuals, some great moments and a story that was basically left on the cutting room floor.

    IMHO, it's still a must see for SCI-FI and Ridley Scott fans.
     

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