Power Rangers

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by SG-17, Aug 7, 2010.

  1. Cyke101

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    I only started noticing this (I haven't been a dedicated watcher since Saban resumed control) with Megaforce, when they kept showing the same episode of RoboKnight getting kidnapped every few weeks for months.

    Like, the few times that I decided to tune in, it was the exact same episode with the exact same cage, and it ended up being a major turnoff for me.

    Yes, 40 episodes a year is nice, but for Megaforce, it was 22 weekly episodes a year, in a dual-split season (so 11 episodes, then a huge gap, then 11 more). Then they did 20 episodes for Super Megaforce. So 40 episodes a year is nice, but they really did 20+ episodes a year, 2 years straight. That's worse than weekly; if averaged out, that's 1 episode every 2.5 weeks. That kind of gap in TV can be deadly. It really does feel like a cheat, especially given that it's a half hour show whose major production advantage is that it reuses footage.

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    Anyway, I need to catch up on Ninninger as I'm a few weeks behind, but one thing that struck me early on is how this team just isn't nearly as refined as the other ninja teams, which is great. Yes, it was a theme with Hurricanger, but Ninninger is nowhere near as slick or skilled; sure, they're flashier and definitely have more techniques, but they'll get hit by attacks that should be easily dodged, they'll make mistakes on the field, they'll mess up, and occasionally even forget some of their powers. Hurricanger on paper had the same thing going on, but they were still incredibly efficient and were still superhuman even if unmorphed (which Ninja Storm adapted to good effect, imo).

    So the major theme of Ninninger is that they're students still trying to improve themselves, but it's being handled much more deliberately than their predecessors, and that's something I appreciate in the show. Hurricanger is one of my all time favorite Sentai shows, but paying so much to that show has made me grow to like Ninninger's differences.
     
  2. Hound of UIster

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    The problem with the show is that they place way too much emphasis on Red (like Kyoryuger) compounded by the fact that his actor is not very good. Other than being the designated main character and kid appeal character, there is nothing really appealing about him. White, Pink, Blue and Gold have had more development and appeal frankly.
     
  3. Stephen!

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    Legacy Thunder Megazord

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  5. Christopher

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    Finally -- new Dino Charge episodes return August 22.
     
  6. Cyke101

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    I've always thought of him as a much better and more charismatic actor than the last two Reds, who were just eye candy and nothing else. Megaforce Red, in particular, was the stiffest, most boring red ranger ever, even though he was one of the prettiest.
     
  7. May 20

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    Yay! I think my kids have the first eight episodes almost memorized. We are loving Dino Charge.
     
  8. DigificWriter

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    Cross-posted from elsewhere:
     
  9. Christopher

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    "When Logic Fails" was a good one, though I don't like the title. I think Riley's logic worked out pretty well for him, so why stress the one moment where he chose friendship over logic? Anyway, I think they overplayed Riley's genius with the Sherlock-style graphics and everything (complete with bleepy computerish sound effects), but it was a nice story overall, with a monster who posed more of a mental threat than a physical one, and Riley outthinking him rather than outfighting him. We even got a nice little Princess Bride nod after the "chess" game on the roof ("Inconceivable!"). And the side plot with Koda vs. the vending machine was kind of fun, especially the payoff.

    The line "Pawns always lose" annoyed me, though. Pawns can checkmate a king in the right circumstances. Judd "Chip" Lynn may be a pretty good Power Rangers writer/producer, but he evidently doesn't know chess that well.
     
  10. Stephen!

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    Ninninger final combinations

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  11. Samurai8472

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    Yoshi the actor who plays Dino charger blue met the ninninger cast

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    He's followed ninninger even before it premiered saying good things about it
     
  12. Christopher

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    "The Royal Rangers" was a weird one. I appreciate the attempt to vary the format, and having the Rangers mount a sting operation to lure in Fury was a novel idea, but it didn't make a lot of sense. Wouldn't faking a royal visit complete with press coverage get them in trouble when word got back to the real royals? Isn't luring a murderous alien monster to a press conference full of innocent bystanders a really reckless thing to do?

    I appreciated Shelby's contempt for princesses and fancy dresses, a nice change from the cliche of female characters dreaming of becoming princesses. But the whole "Shelby learns that princesses are people too" angle was bizarre. I wasn't aware that princesses were an oppressed minority for whom we needed to learn tolerance and understanding. The attempted moral that royal people can do good with their position may have been technically true, but the only reason Shelby was able to wield influence as a "princess" and get her artist friend noticed was because of society's shallow obsession with celebrity and glamour, the very attitude she rightly held in contempt. So all in all, that whole subplot was pretty dumb.

    Also, when the Ptera Zord first showed up, why did the Rangers direct the Megazord from the sidelines in their street clothes, instead of morphing right off the bat? That was weird.
     
  13. Chris3123

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    ^ I agree on every single point. At least the episode wasn't complete nonsense; we did after all get some major contributions to the overall mythos (Gold energem, the nature of the "spirit" inside Fury).

    At least Tyler finally figures out it was his Dad that was inside Fury. It was pretty clear from the start that it was him in there, at least to me anyway.

    As soon as the portrait of the knight was revealed I immediately figured that he will somehow end up in the present and be the gold ranger. Turns out I was right, I just now peeked at the PR Wiki, and saw that the Gold ranger is indeed the Xandarian knight in the portrait, and will make his first proper appearance in this week's episode. They aren't wasting any time, are they?
     
  14. Christopher

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    Ah, so there were consequences for the Rangers' public impersonation after all. That's good. Although I have to wonder how come nobody in the press noticed that the fake prince looked totally unlike the real one. Well, that's modern journalism for you -- nobody fact-checks anymore.

    Nice fakeout, making us think that the "spirit" inside Fury was Tyler's dad and then having it turn out to be the Gold Ranger. Red Rangers with daddy issues are such an established trope that we just bought right into it. Of course, the mystery of Tyler's father is still unresolved. I don't know if the show could get away with just confirming that Fury killed him.

    I'm disappointed that the Ptera Zord's cape was just a symbol of its evil control. I figured it was just what the wings turned into in Megazord mode. It was such an unusual look for a Megazord that I wish they'd kept it. The Gold Ranger's "wings" are an interesting touch, though.

    The weirdest bit was when the Gold Ranger fired that lightning burst at the monster and it actually formed the words ZANDAR THUNDER written in cartoon lightning. Apparently that actually happens in the original Kyoryuger footage. It's a weapon whose name is Zandar Thunder, although I can't figure out why it's called that. (Although the Japanese phonetic rendering of "Zandar Thunder" is Zandaa Sandaa, so maybe it's just meant to be some kind of alliteration.) Anyway, it explains why Ivan's country is called Zandar. The equivalent character in the Sentai has a similar backstory, except he's a samurai rather than a European knight.
     
  15. Chris3123

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    Yeah. First we find out Tyler's dad went missing, then we find out Fury has someone trapped inside him. It sure seemed pretty obvious. I did figure it may actually be the knight instead though, after watching the previous episode.

    I was going to say that they wouldn't go that far, but then I remembered Wild Force, where Dr. Adler/Master Org had murdered Cole's parents (that whole backstory was pretty mature stuff for a kids show). So there is precedent. On the other hand, since Saban got PR back the show definitely appears to be aimed more at the younger crowd than the ones from that era, so we'lkl proablably see his dad alive at some point.

    Ah, thanks for that. I couldn't read what it said.

    Xandar. With an 'X'. ;)

    One thing that kind of bugged me was how familiar Ivan was with the whole Ranger concept, immediately after his escape from inside Fury. He knew exactly what he was doing the whole time. Tyler and Shelby had no idea what the heck they were doing when they first morphed, only doing so after aimlessly fiddling around with the morpher, so it proably wasn't the Energem guinding him. My only guess is that was somehow aware of what was on around Fury all this time, and picked up some things.
     
  16. Christopher

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    Yeah, that's my thinking. I'm aware of the seasons that skewed darker -- RPM actually had human characters die on camera -- but the current seasons are younger-skewing.

    Wasn't Wild Force one of the seasons that copied the corresponding Sentai season's plotline almost exactly? The Red Ranger and the main villain were new characters with original storylines, but everything else was practically beat-for-beat from Gaoranger. The Sentai plots are often much darker and death-laden than the PR stuff -- except in this case it was the original-to-PR content that included murder. Ironic, that.


    Not according to RangerWiki:

    http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Zandar
    http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Sir_Ivan_of_Zandar


    It's an old PR trope that Rangers seem to acquire knowledge of how to do martial arts and use their weapons as soon as they morph for the first time, though I forgot that this series had subverted that at the start. But I suppose Ivan has been watching the Rangers from inside Fury. Since he's been struggling to get out the whole time, it stands to reason that he's been conscious.

    Then again, Fury's also been using Ivan's energy to recharge the Gold Energem. Maybe that process created some kind of bond that gave Ivan the knowledge.
     
  17. Stephen!

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    In Gaoranger, the counterpart episode for "Wings of Animaria" has four of the Gaoranger actually killed (albeit temporarily) as opposed to just being unconscious.
     
  18. Hound of UIster

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    The armor plotline for Kyoryuger (and probably Dino Charge) with the Sixth member is lifted directly from Gaoranger.
     
  19. Stephen!

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    Regarding MMPR, since it's originally referred to as a flute in "Green with Evil" part 05, when was the term "Dragon Dagger" first used? When Bandai released the toy, or when "Return of an Old Friend" part 01 aired?
     
  20. Christopher

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    "Knight After Knights" was a lot of fun. I loved Ivan's makeshift team of "brave warriors" -- totally hilarious. Also fun to see the Rangers' over-the-top panicking and freaking out, and Shelby's exasperation with them. Shelby is fun when she's impatient or exasperated. In fact... you know how in the original MMPR titles, Zordon told Alpha to "recruit a team of teenagers with attitude," but the actual Rangers were the nicest, most well-behaved and attitude-free teenagers on the face of the Earth? Shelby has actual attitude, and it's great fun.

    Davi Santos isn't bad as Ivan, but he has much more of an American-like accent than the other Zandarian characters we saw last week, for some reason. Well, maybe that's what a Zandarian accent was like 800 years ago... long before Modern English existed, let alone American English. Um.