Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Admiral Buzzkill, Jan 7, 2009.
OK, I love that. AKA Hodgkin's law of Hollywood set usage.
I had the good fortune to have dinner with Dennis twice in the past five days while visiting the D.C. metro area. As such I got the skinny on Polaris, which I'm pretty excited about. I told Dennis I'd help him out as much as possible. Time to go home and rummage through potential set-dressing and props!
Thanks, DS9Sega. Hanging out was a blast - wish we'd had more time.
We've cast our villain - "Andros Gaitanis" will be played by Garrett Melich:
The full casting announcement is here.
Great new. So, when does filming begin?
Oh, I read it as a cry for help.
Shooting starts in early December.
We thought that to, at first with STOGAM when we first starting hearing about the ST2009 plot. Some things were similar but not exactly the same
- We had Kirks mom getting killed in the past while pregnant with Kirk (she was a blonde too) JJ had Kirks Dad getting killed while Kirks mom was pregnant (also a blonde) .
- Vulcan being Destroyed!!
- Uhura getting romanticaly involved with Vulcans, she got married to Stonn but we implied that she had a fling with Spock in the alternate timeline.
Anywho, this thread is about Polaris, and its look better and better all the time, kudos to Dennis, Paul and the others.
Wow, I did not catch the story similarities. How did I miss that? Stupid brain! How else can one explain the story similarities? This really makes me think less of their writers.....
Cause they're kinda obvious twists if you're looking for twists.
Yep, pretty much. I'd say that the chance that Paramount has ripped off fan films for stories is: Nada. Zip. Zero.
Reverse Engineered Plot Lines!
I have no idea what that means.
Actually, I needed to do something mundane after all the exciting things I was doing politically in D.C.
Oh, you mean like watching the Senate debate a "National Bunion Day" declaration as they moved you from the entrance to the exit with cattle prods?
The truth is, once I started watching fan films (which was AFTER I saw JJA Trek, or as I am now calling it, Trek Wars), I felt they had stolen their ideas from a raft of fan films, yes, definately, including STOGAM, ST:Exeter, and some others, including Phase II. That was also AFTER I wrote my Trek Wars review, so that in no way effected a very mixed review. No one will convince me that the Spock ship in Trek Wars isn't stolen from Exeter, but if Dennis and the other folks at Exeter want to write it off to Hodgekin's law of parallet development, so be it. Actually, the parallel I saw was in Spock's mom's death v. Kirk's mom's death. Either way, there are too many coincidences between the top fan films and Trek Wars for it all to be original twice. Clearly, the fan film community is far more charitable than I am.
I'm glad that Polaris, Frontier Guard, Buck Rogers Begins, and the new non-Trek Intrepid project are being made, and I sincerely hope they, and Renegade Studios, can make a few dollars, Euros, etc on these other projects, at least enough to pay for their ongoing activities... oh yeah, and to have enough left over to sue Paramount's a** if they refuse to enter into formal agreements about the Fan Trek but keep stealing Fan Trek ideas. If they wanted an agreement in which they took 25 per cent of the gross, and the right to copy stuff from the fan films, but the fan films could then sell their stuff, I'd be a happy camper, but this is fricken' ridiculous. This is not Time Warner/DC and Superman, who just renewed Smallville for a, what, 9th season with a viewer audience a few hundred thousand below Enterprise when it was cancelled, and which since the 1930s, has never gone even ONE MONTH without producing product for their fan base.
OK, this is the Polaris thread, and I'm ranting... but looking forward to Polaris, nonetheless.
What ship do we have in Exeter that looks anything like the "Jellyfish"?
I'm not being charitable in the least; Paramount sure doesn't need it.
Exactly. Except that the "cattle prods" they used were their bland, boring and baseless proclamations. That was enough.
Oh wait, that was the House...
Well, guys.... I don't know if it was "borrowed" or not, but I think it is interesting that the story points are similar. It's easy for anyone to borrow those ideas because they're not protected. I offer one question. Why didn't they just totally re-invent Star Trek? They could have easilly avoided all the bitching and whining from the hard-core fans and just taken the brand and concepts and tailored them for what they percieve as todays audience. I offer Wolverine, Transformers, and Twilight as examples of the kind of movie style is popular now. They didn't really need Nimoy. They really didn't need to emulated the TOS uniforms. They didn't really need to have the same characters and names. They didn't need to design the ship similarly to the original or call her Enterprise. So, why did they? I don't know.... At anyrate, I wish they had done that.
As for the namesake of this thread...Polaris looks dang kewl. I am excited to see where you intend to take it Dennis. Oh, and DS9Sega, the short that you linked to recently was great. Loved it.
I just posted an updated set of sketches for the Polaris on my Website.
Also, far be it from me to dictate the conversation in somebody else's thread, but maybe the discussion about what Paramount did or did not rip off would be better left to the multitude of other threads that have been taken over by that and similar topics.
Cool stuff, Vektor, but all the detail is starting to make the craft look to SFX "now" for my taste. Too busy.
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