Paul Dini: Superhero Cartoon Producers don't want girl viewers

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  1. Alidar Jarok

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    A) What difference would it make if they did
    B) Why are you calling breasts "boobies"? Are you 12?
     
  2. Taylirious

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    Girls want Justin Bieber, One Direction & Miley Cyrus dolls. :p Possibly Katy Perry & Lady Gaga Dolls. :rommie:
     
  3. Christopher

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    ^That's the stereotype, but real-life girls have rather broader tastes, I gather. Lots of girls are interested in playing with "boy" toys; it's just societal peer (and adult and corporate) pressure that deters them and tries to force them into "proper" feminine molds.
     
  4. JarodRussell

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    A) When you're constructing a robot, waste of material for example.
    B) Why, do you have a problem with it? Boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies, boobies.
     
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    Two words... Kiss Players. :scream:
     
  6. Redfern

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    I'm obviously not "up" on the news, but am I to understand "Beware the BatMan" got "yanked"? I assumed (read: hoped) it simply went on a brief hiatus until a new batch of episodes were finished.

    Sincerely,

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  7. Harvey

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    Networks make their money selling audiences to advertisers. People 18-49 have more disposable income, which makes them much more valuable to advertisers than older audiences.

    I still can't fathom why ABC axed poor Boston Legal, though. It actually did reasonably well among the 18-49 demographic (I should know, I watched it religiously). I suppose it must have had something to do with the fact that 20th Century Fox produced the show, rather than it being an in-house thing.
     
  8. Christopher

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    It's theoretically on hiatus until January, which is far from brief, since it's been off the air since October 5. But when CN did the exact same thing to Green Lantern and Young Justice, I think it had already decided to cancel them by the time the delayed episodes resumed airing. So I'm not optimistic about the show's future.
     
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    Alledgedly, this age group is more willing to change or try new brands, whereas the older demo becomes 'settled' and not swayed by the latest ''new and improved'', sticking to their preferred products.
     
  10. Alidar Jarok

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    I'd argue all androids are inefficient users of material. The choice to construct a robot like a humanoid is aesthetic to begin with.

    I don't have a problem with it. I just think it demonstrates a mindset reflective of the flaws in your logic.

    That's possible. It did last five seasons, so let's not mourn its tragic early demise. Certainly, as CBS has learned, an older skewing demographic isn't all bad. At least, they've managed to make it work.
     
  11. Harvey

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    CBS has managed to make it work with notably bigger audiences overall, though.

    And agreed, Boston Legal had a good run, and a terrific ending. But it's hard not to wish there were more sometimes.
     
  12. Christopher

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    And indeed, mimicking the proportions and build of a typical woman would entail using less material than mimicking the proportions and build of a typical man -- let alone the kind of big, muscular man that cartoon and movie robots are more often modeled on.
     
  13. Unicron

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    Words best avoided. :p :rommie:
     
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    Understatement of the century... :barf:
     
  15. Dream

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    The Blade show on SPIKE had a high female audience numbers, but not enough males were watching so it ended up getting canceled anyway. It's not about a high audience, but about the right kind of audience.

    Toy sales are important to cartoons, I would imagine TMNT is much more profitable for Nickelodeon compared to Legend of Korra.
     
  16. Shaka Zulu

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    The problem with this, as many people have said, is when said viewership dies off and won't be there to watch said programing, as was mentioned in an article about Japanese manga:

    Why Manga Publishing Is Dying (And How It Could Get Better)

    What happened in that instance will happen here with TV. And that's why networks are pursuing younger viewers. (This was also mentioned in an earlier thread about the merchandising of the original Star Trek vs. the new movies.)
     
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    I had to google Kiss Players to see what you guys were talking about.

    OH. MY. CHRIST!!!

    This was the single most disturbing thing I have seen in a long time.
     
  18. Peach Wookiee

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    What has been seen... ewww.
     
  19. Unicron

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    Yeah, we would have warned you not to Google if you'd merely asked about that possibility. I think I have some brain bleach somewhere... :D