OT: Vote for the Unreality SF - Media Tie-In Story of the year

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Defcon, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Greg Cox

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    No, watching the live stage show was torture . . . .

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  2. BrotherBenny

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    It wasn't by choice, believe me. We had to watch it as part of a course at college. adaptation module, comprising literary adaptation, video game adaptation and a couple of others. The other video game adaptation was Tomb Raider.
     
  3. Mach5

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    I wasn't attempting to evaluate the site. I was simply critical of your review which IMO suffered from a significant lack of objectivity. Also, contacting the person behind the text directly means very little compared to the ability to publicly comment on the article.
     
  4. Trent Roman

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    "Significant lack of objectivity"? I've read that review. I agree with it in most respects (I wasn't as down on the stylistic elements, but failed to find any charm in the "Tucker, superspy" portions). What, pray tell, is biased or prejudicial about it?

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  5. Defcon

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    First of all the basics: a review never is totally objective. Since we're all humans, of course our personal preferences play into how we perceive things. A review is just the opinion of one person (in this case me), nothing more and nothing less.

    Having said that: I liked the Enterprise Series, I liked previous Enterprise books and I liked most of the non-Enterprise Mangels & Martin stories, so theoretically I should have a "positive bias", but the combination of the authors and the series just don't work for me and that they are focusing so much on the one part of the series which I liked the least (the Trip & T'Pol relationship) isn't helping either. By the way: based on your avatar I doubt your opinion on the books is more objective than mine. ;)

    As for the commenting on reviews on the site: that's not in my hand. If you want to comment on my review you can do it here if you want.
     
  6. danjamesb

    danjamesb Commander Red Shirt

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    Regardless of how you reacted to the review, I think it makes some fair points, and it's obviously representative of Defcon's opinion, which is as valid as anyone else's. :)

    That's something which has been suggested before, but I don't know if it'd be worth it.

    As Defcon points out, there's an email address for any comments you might have, but most of the emails I get in that inbox are along the lines of "Can you get me some free books?", "can i b a reviewa? im rele gud at righting!!¬!" or just "Hey, nice site", so I'm not entirely convinced that a significant proportion of our readers are that interested in commenting on the reviews. :)

    Plus, looking at TrekMovie.com's latest Trek book review (ici), which does allow user comments, the majority of the responses seem to be debating Janeway's death, rather than replying to Rob Lyons' actual review.

    *shrug*

    I'll keep it in mind, though. :) I'd like to give the site an overhaul at some point this year.
     
  7. danjamesb

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    With just over 24 hours before the poll closes, more than 1800 votes have been cast, and it's getting quite tight at the top: only 31 votes separate the 1st- and 5th-ranked stories. If you haven't already voted, now would be a good time. :)
     
  8. LightningStorm

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    Cool! I go to see who's winning now and get this:

    :( Nooooooooo! The suspense is killing me. :)
     
  9. Middleman

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    First of all, I'll start by saying, I'm not very "objective" when it comes to Enterprise. This series brought me back to the Star Trek franchise after a 17 year absence. Second thing I was (am) a big fan of the Tucker / T'Pol relationship as is evidenced by my current Avatar. I had to get that out of the way for sake of full disclosure.

    I feel there are very good reasons why Kobayashi Maru had to have the Tucker / T'Pol relationship as one of its focuses. The first reason is they needed to correct the mistakes of These Are The Voyages, the two bigest of which was the death of Tucker and the ending of the relationship. The Good That Men Do resolved the Tucker death issue and Kobayashi Maru resolved the relationship issue.

    Why was that necessary? The answer is simply: "To sell books". Tucker by far was the fans most favorite character in Enterprise and I'll go as far as saying that without that cahracter back, the books wouldn't sell. IMO, Tucker is Enterprise. A biased opinion? Perhaps, but based on what I read on the several Enterprise boards I post to, and I know I am not alone on this one. I'll go as far as to say that I believe a majority of Enterprise fans feel that way.

    The Tucker / T'Pol relationship was also a fan favorite and that's why they made it a key sub plot in Kobayashi Maru, to leave no doubt on the status of thier relationship. Margaret Clark and the authors did their research on what the fans wanted, and they gave it to us. I give Margaret a lot of credit for this. I know not every fan likes the relationship, but in the numbers game of selling books, you have to find a way to draw in the largest audience. They way to do that is to have something for everyone and the fact is: the Tucker / T'Pol relationship sells.

    I do agree that the books could have been better. Too much jumping from one sub plot to another for my taste. Also they way wrote "the repairs" of Tucker's death and the relationship could have been better. IMO there were better ways to fix those particular problems. However, now that the repairs are done and the next three books are being either being written or planed, we can look forward to the continuing story of the NX-01 crew and the Romulan War. Hopefully the layoffs at Pocket Books wont slow down the releases of the series.
     
  10. danjamesb

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    Right now, the top three stories are within just ten votes of one another, and the ranking of those three has already switched a couple of times today.

    Two and a half hours left... :evil:
     
  11. Dayton Ward

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    It's Monday morning. Where are the results? :)
     
  13. danjamesb

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    On their way - just waiting for a couple of things to happen before I post them.

    I'll put a link here when they're online. :)
     
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  15. Dimesdan

    Dimesdan "Down with this sort of thing!" Premium Member

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    Good to see the results up, not exactly surprised which book won given how bloody good it is, but I'm gutted my choice only came in fourth!
     
  16. Defcon

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    ^ Ah, well my favorite came in third.

    Congratulations to the winner. :)
     
  17. shanejayell

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    Congrats to 'Gods of Night.'

    ^__^
     
  18. JD

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    Congrats David. I'm glad to see that GoN won, because despite how good the other Trek books were, it was still my favorite.

    How hard is it to find the Doctor Who audios in the US? I've never listened to something like them before, but I've heard enough about them now that I'm curious to see what they are like.
     
  19. Rosalind

    Rosalind TrekLit's Dr Rose Mod Admiral

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    I suggest you go to the big finish website and buy the downloads, because they are much cheaper that way and you can get them instantaneously, and they don't have DRM on their audio files.
     
  20. Stevil2001

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    And if you don't like downloads, WhoNA, Mike's Comics, and Alien Entertainment are your best bets in the States. I usually do Mike's (or sometimes WhoNA) if I'm buying a single audio, AE if I'm getting a subscription.
     

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