Opinions on Chakotay & Seven

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Chakotay / Seven pairing gets:

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  1. Zameaze

    Zameaze Commodore Commodore

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    The bonobo chimps engage in orgies, masturbate frequently, and connive to overcome the female alliances that are made to keep the male under control. You're right--that’s us.
     
  2. exodus

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    Sounds like a typical weekend for me.:lol:
     
  3. EJA

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    One thing I take comfort in is that the VOY Relaunch novels by Christie Golden had Seven and Chakotay break up shortly after returning to Earth. THANK YOU, CHRISTIE GOLDEN!!!
     
  4. Mach5

    Mach5 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But IIRC, they hold hands at Janeway's funeral, don't they?
     
  5. Kestrel

    Kestrel Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Ooh, this should get a fun response... :devil:


    The Chakotay/7 pairing as presented was too sudden and unexplained to make a lot of sense, but I think - in light of Seven's previously noted attraction to Chakotay - it could've been an interesting direction to explore for those characters. Walking stereotype though he be, Chakotay does have an established sensitivity/empathy and wisdom that would make him a perfectly good partner for someone who's been scarred like Seven and who's exploring her humanity. If forced to choose between Chakotay/Seven and Chakotay/Janeway... I plead the fifth, and can see reasons for both.
     
  6. Dark Gilligan

    Dark Gilligan Writer Fleet Captain

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    Uh...yeah. It was a funeral. People have been known to hug at funerals too.
     
  7. RandyS

    RandyS Vice Admiral Admiral

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    True. The whole thing came off as forced and pointless.
     
  8. RandyS

    RandyS Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I think it's more likely that Harry had a crush on a woman way out of his league. Borg implants or no, Seven would barely know Harry was alive.

    If she noticed him at all.
     
  9. Mach5

    Mach5 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Why would she be out of his league? I mean, what exactly was so wrong with him?
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    He's a gerbil faced optimist with the emotional maturity of a turnip who falls in love at the turn of a hat and doesn't practice "safe" sex.
     
  11. Mach5

    Mach5 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yes, but what's wrong with him? :D
     
  12. RandyS

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    What Guy said.:bolian:
     
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Off the kuff?

    The wrong twin. I recall being fascinated by the wrong twin once. I might have stood a chance with the moron, but the interesting sister was married already, but it's ust insulting to dribbly about one girl in the face of another throwing herself at you and... Bad karma all around.

    Telepathic castration. This was his answer for being rejected sexually by a holographic windsurf teacher. I saw an episode of How I met your Mother were Dougie Howser demands a diagram to show him how to have sex on a windsurfing board because trial and error to this point had assured him that it was impossible, but I digress, when it was than within his power to verbally reprogram the lady into a nymph who was truly all about his pork sword, just like Kathy morphed a provincial Drunkard publican into a poet laureate for her very own sex pet, but then if he couldn't make a new doctor then why should we believe that he can make a woman who loves him?

    Long distance. there was three years he could have been sending home made porn from one side of the galaxy to the other to amuse Libby, or Love poetry, but in all, all his WHINING about conversing with back home, it was all just about his Mommy and daddy. Yes that's right. He's a Momma's boy.

    Romeoandjulietitus. He wanted the borgette because she was forbidden, but once she stamped his visa for her nether regions, he bolted like a bat out of hell. He wanted that girl with space herpes because she was forbidden, breaking the cultural taboos and common sense of sticking your Johnson where no Johnson has gone before against Starfleet protocols is a hanging offence, Pun intended. Hells, a bunch of sexy ladies said they were his sisters and aunties and he leapt at the chance to leap all over them with nary asking for a blood test to see exactly how close their familiaral relations might be? Then of course there;s his redundant wife, which is probably his only successful relationship that the bloke had, a one year old who was probably regarded as both his goddaughter and niece right up till the second they became naked together... Although Kes might have insisted that Neelix was the godfather, but then if they were both godparents, does that mean that Neelix and Kim were Godmarried? Long story short, too late, dude loves the drama.

    The grass is Greener? I think he was into Chakotays girlfriend in Timeless. Did you see how loudly he professed about Chakotays sexual relations with a lady? Methinks the dude doth attest too much. is it his destiny to moon and pine after the Indians chippies? Could Chakotays hooks into her fidelity rekindle young Harry's infatuation with the Borgette?

    Wingman. Kim packdates with Tom. Tom got the cream and Harry got the chum. Master Alpha and Master Beta. Obviously with Tom on the shelf he'd have to have found a replacement wingman and... Well, Neelix got married off too so i guess that leaves Icheb. Now that's creepy if Harry is now chum nibbling at Ichebs substandard teenaged castoffs.
     
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  14. Wicca who Wonta

    Wicca who Wonta Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Anyone would have been better for Seven than Chakotay. Sometimes I think they only paired the two together because they couldn't find anything worthwile for Chakotay to do in Endgame, so they created this implausible romance instead.
     
  15. Mach5

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    Uhm, sure... Yeah, whatever you say...

    I always thought TPTP gave Robert Beltran's character a hot T&A / ships Barbie doll just to shit him up, because he kept whining about Chakotay not getting enough "development" and stuff.So it was like: "Here's your development - your character scores the hottest chick on the ship, he's all cool and every trekkie in the galaxy envies him, now kindly back off and STFU"
     
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  16. xman

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    I didn't see it coming and I didn't think too much of it, but because it was well played, I accepted it.

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  17. Guy Gardener

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    "Mommy, daddy, was it love at first sight when you met each other?"

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  18. Mach5

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    Actually, that doesn't sound so bad. Beats the hell out of "I loved your mom the moment I first laid eyes on her!"

    IMO, it's what (didn't) came after that's in question.

    [BTW, dude are you quoting "Gossip Girl?" :vulcan:]
     
  19. Wicca who Wonta

    Wicca who Wonta Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^^ And he was one of the people who had the least faith in Seven during the years, which makes the pairing even more surprising and implausible.
     
  20. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Even relying on the awesome resources of a 24th century Starship, Kathy would be turned to mint jelly if she got caught in-between Blair and Chuck strutting and puffing out their chests at each other for total dominance over the upper east side.

    I started watching for the field hockey and kept watching for the overlapping unrequited come overquited four dimensional love polygons. It's like they turned emotional viscera into legos for goodness sake.

    Besides for all it's pathetic girliness and unconvincing weak conclusions when I'm expecting a traincrash into maybe a sack of puppies, the strong continuity and inepisodic constant incremental LOGICAL growth of the characters from wallflowers into monsters and the flowing over lapping almost love making plotlines make for some stern entertainment.

    I would be so happy if Voyager could've planned a season a tenth as well as Gossip Girl, that from week to week what happened before and after on this Star Ship lost in space actually mattered in the slightest.

    Besides? Have you seen Roman Holiday? Comedy of errors and mistaken identity on the way to true love? Quite possibly the greatest story ever told. :)
     
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