Ongoing Community Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Admiral_Young, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Karzak

    Karzak Commodore Commodore

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    That's a bit of a fatalistic view of things. If there were to be a season seven, I'm sure the interested parties would be able to find a way to make it work.
     
  2. bigdaddy

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    I think they will make the movie and bring everyone back that they can.

    I still think the best idea for the movie is they go looking for Troy when he gets lost at sea.
     
  3. Awesome Possum

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    The show hinted that he and Levar were kidnapped by pirates in an easter egg. Also Joel joked on an episode of Harmontown that Levar killed and ate Troy while lost at sea.
     
  4. JirinPanthosa

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    They've referenced Troy being lost at sea twice but they haven't really had emotional fallout from it, so I see them as kind of throwaway jokes that they can reverse the first time Donald Glover says yes to them.

    Plus they like to do that every time a character leaves the show. Like, the exact same way they said that Prof. Slater mysteriously disappeared and has not been seen since. I'm surprised Vaughn and Rich never met terrible fates.
     
  5. JirinPanthosa

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    "Please don't Jim the camera." Ha.

    Edit: (This post made in the middle of the episode)

    Wow, this episode is a trainwreck. Season 4 level bad. First they have characters all acting like assholes in a way uncharacteristic of them, then they go to incest? They also didn't do anything interesting with the pseudo-doc format. Did they use it just because it's something that worked for them in previous seasons?

    The whole 'Characters act completely without self awareness for an episode, then are made to feel bad, and try to rectify their mistake' is something that belongs in normal sitcoms, not in Community. When characters in Community act like assholes, they are completely cognizant of what they're doing.

    Also I don't know why they made incest references, they didn't do anything funny with that either. It's almost like they did it just to get attention by stirring up internet controversy.
     
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  6. Guy Gardener

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    "I'm the best possible me around you guys."

    Which turned out to be true.

    Chang stepped up, and saved the day.

    :)
     
  7. Aldo

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    I know Season 6 hasn't been really clicking with you, but I loved tonight's episode, it was hilarious. I think the group has a perfectly reasonable explanation for acting out of character: they're all drunk :D Especially when Annie and Britta lied about the time so they could hang out, they boozed it up while they were making fun of Garret.

    Speaking of that, that felt exactly like something that they did in the writer's room and thought it was funny enough to include in the episode, and I'm glad they did, especially hearing Elroy immitate Garret was hilarious.

    The incest angle was there to provide a little conflict, and it got Chang to step up and save the day, which I loved. He acted the most like the Senor Chang of old, it was a nice touch.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Don't forget that he has monkey-rabies (Something similar?), it's hard for Chang not to be a loon.

    Oh.

    The only difference between Annie and Frankie is their hair products.

    They are so the same person!

    Obviously coming back to the past, Frankie would have to bring "modern" hair care products with her, because if anyone looks at Aldo's avatar, Frankie (Annie!) is sensible enough to have no faith whatsoever in the goop the women of 2015 think is good for them which oughtta make them look even better.
     
  9. Aldo

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    Let us not forget that Britta's hair is like that because she was high on Peyote (a very funny visual gag from Season 2/3...it was one of those fake clip show episodes).

    Speaking of fake clip shows, looks like that's the route they're going with the finale...but this time they're showing clip from "Season 7." I think this is an insanely clever idea and can't wait to see what they'll come up with.

    Also there's a rumor going around that Chevy Chase and or Yvette Nicole Brown will show up. No Glover though.
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

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    It would be so hilarious if Pierce just kind of walked in like nothing happened and when everyone reacted he said "Yeah, I didn't really die. I was messing with you guys."

    I have been critical of a lot of season 6, but most of the episodes still felt like Community. This episode felt more like an episode of The Office or Modern Family. Substitute in Michael Scott and the characters' actions make a lot more sense.

    Also it makes no sense whatsoever that nobody else had figured out they were related. Were there a brother and sister so completely alienated from each other that no member of one's family ever had any communication at all with any member of the others for thirty years? Did their parents not recognize each other? It might have made some more sense if they were 2nd or 3rd cousins like that time in 30 Rock.

    There may be a gas leak in Abed/Annie/Britta's apartment.
     
  11. The Borgified Corpse

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    With all of the complaints about how Seasons 4-6 have felt "off," I just found a lengthy video from a fan describing how he felt that Season 3 (usually very well regarded by the fans) was a betrayal of the realism and the way that the characters were grounded in Seasons 1 & 2.

    [yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CovKAyx6MQM[/yt]

    One of my favorite gags from the entire series. "How long does Peyote last? I'm asking for a friend." :guffaw:

    Brilliant! And I think I have a theory about how this all started for Abed. In "The Art of Discourse," one of Abed's accomplished college goals was "Make out with the hottest girl on campus." Might that be the eventually pregnant girl?

    (Approx 1:02 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XRLKhvIge8 )

    Of Hickey's 3 biggest episodes:
    "Analysis of Cork Based Networking" had a major ensemble element and most of the Hickey stuff also had a significant focus on Annie.
    Hickey's subplot in "Bondage & Beta Male Sexuality" had a major Abed component as well.
    The most Hickey-centric episode was "Advanced Advanced Dungeons & Dragons," which is one of my least favorite high concept episodes. It's a waste of David Cross and a hollow echo of the previous D&D episode.

    Agreed. Honestly, even way back when I was watching Season 1 on DVD, I had a hard time believing that this show would ever get a 2nd season (despite the fact that I'd already owned the 2nd season on DVD at the time). TV that's this smart just doesn't last and we've been uber-blessed with Community already having beaten the odds 5 times now.

    Who's Ryan?
     
  12. JirinPanthosa

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    Ryan from The Office I mean. His personality was completely reinvented pretty much every season.

    Season 1-3, business school student who thinks he's too good for his job at DM. Basically normal young guy with a lack of real world common sense.
    Season 4, DM executive and drug addict trying to 'Live the high life' in NYC and force his brilliant youthful ideas on the company.
    Season 5, Incompetent defeated vindictive guy ready to settle for whatever he can get.
    Season 6+, Mamma's boy hipster drama queen.

    You can do a similar thing with Chang.

    1. Moderately but aggressively unbalanced and insecure Spanish teacher.
    2. Needy psychopath desperate to join the group.
    3. Needy psychopath enabled by the Dean.
    4. Amnesia faking guy with no clear goal.
    5+. Sporadically odd occasionally helpful guy with mild schizophrenic tendencies.
    6. Actor who references his prior insanity.

    I would agree season 3 did betray the realism of the first two seasons, but it was worth it because the least realistic episodes tended to be the best written and coolest. I mean, how freaking awesome was John Goodman as the head of the School of Air Conditioning Repair? An 8 bit video game made by a racist? Brilliant, incredibly cool episodes.

    Season 4 had a different set of writers who were used to writing normal network sitcoms and it showed. Season 5 I really enjoyed, it seemed like a sequel to seasons 2-3 and made great use of Professors Duncan and Hickey. Not quite as good but felt the same with only a few misfires.

    Season 6 seems like it's trying to be a sequel to season 1 and have Frankie drag the school kicking and screaming back to the real world. That's a good thing, but most of the time they haven't been able to tap into the emotional themes they tapped into in season 1. And characters have been suffering from Sitcom Syndrome more than usual and not in the usual ironic manner.

    Sitcom Syndrome, a mental illness common among network TV characters characterized by the tendency to act destructively without self awareness and ruin important things for other people, then feel really bad about it and try to rectify your mistake, usually followed by lesson amnesia.

    Sitcom Syndrome is the reason I have trouble getting into Modern Family and Blackish, which are otherwise rather likable and funny.
     
  13. JirinPanthosa

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    I thought that was a great finale, and I loved the part at the end where the family figures out they don't really exist. "Viewership may be measured by an outdated system based on what people wrote in journals about what they watched, then show may be moved to the internet where it turned out tens of millions of people were watching the whole time."

    I like that they allowed the characters to move on with their lives and gave Annie and Abed futures but it's kind of bummer that Jeff seems resigned to never practicing law again.

    I hope we do see more of Community in some form in the future.

    Though I would prefer a medium other than Yahoo Screen. The screen size it allows you differs based on how you clicked into it and today closed captions kept turning on automatically.

    #AndAMovie
     
  14. Photoman15

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    And two "f-bombs". :)

    Wonder why they waited till the season finale for that? Still no Annie/Britta boobage.
    :(
     
  15. Karzak

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    I'm an episode behind all of you. I just watched the Garrett/Stacy Wedding episode and thought it was brilliant. The incest plot was not something you'd find on the show, I think, during the NBC run, but worked perfectly here and I especially loved the ultimate resolution (muchos gracias, El Tigre!) and how the show utilized Chang.

    Here's hoping Yahoo will bring us a season 7.
     
  16. Campe98

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    I really hope not. I know you're behind, but this finale was the perfect ending.
     
  17. Aldo

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    Is it perfect enough that if the "andamovie" never happens everything will still feel like it wrapped up nicely?

    I'm still holding out hope for a movie, just so the tagline can be "We told you."
     
  18. Campe98

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    I think so. I mean there are a few lingering questions (one of which would make a good movie plot). But, it was enough closure for me if we don't. Still, I'd love to see the movie.
     
  19. Aldo

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    I have a friend who's convinced the movie won't happen because Tom Rothman is now the head of Sony Pictures and that doesn't seem like something Tom Rothman would greenlight.

    I'm curious what other peoples thoughts on this are.
     
  20. JirinPanthosa

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    If they did season 7 I wouldn't mind if they started an entirely new study group we've never met before. As much as I love these characters I think they had a great ending. They could be a Fundamentals of Law study group.

    My issue with the wedding episode wasn't the incest reference so much as that the characters acted uncharacteristically stupid in a very normal-crappy-sitcom-like way.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Community got a straight to internet movie on the weight of fan demand.
     

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