Okay guys. *This* really IS a good idea for a new series.

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Dale Sams, Mar 15, 2014.

  1. Melakon

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    Close. But put Data's head in a box instead, and then Guinan can do a Senor Wences routine with him.

    Guinan: S'allright?
    Data: S'allright!
     
  2. Warped9

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    Same.
     
  3. Chemahkuu

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    Shocker :lol:
     
  4. OpenMaw

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    The question then becomes what form such a straight reboot would take?

    I still hold that going back to Gene's original pitch and using the raw material to build a new series from scratch would be the best way to go in that regard. :)
     
  5. Warped9

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    Some thoughts:

     
  6. SeerSGB

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    Plus you still have to know where you're going. That's there's something to beam too. Transwarp beaming might work great if you're going to a charted planet with known orbital cycles, and where you know what interstellar and local star anomalies might be in the way. But try "shooting blind" and you're could end up beaming into a void or scattered from one end of the galaxy to the other.

    Getting there is never the problem, you still need a map to let you know how to get there.
     
  7. Bry_Sinclair

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    But one hypospray of Khan/Augment's blood and you're fighting fit once again, so that's no longer a problem.
     
  8. AviTrek

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  9. USS Triumphant

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    Well, I didn't say I don't have a problem with the blood thing. I do. But without it, the transwarp beaming issue might not be a problem. And with it, there's a whole lot more that gets screwed up than *just* the transwarp beaming. ;)
     
  10. Warped9

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  11. Bry_Sinclair

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    The question with that is, who is going to have the balls to attempt such a task? And would they be willing to do an actual reboot, to make things drastically different?

    If they rebooted TOS, would they have a bisexual Kirk, Ms Spock and an African-American McCoy? Or would it just be a case of recasting (again) and repackaging stories with new special effects?
     
  12. 2takesfrakes

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    They would give the show the Battlestar Galactica Reboot treatment. I see no other option. The names Kirk, Spock and Bones have to be in the next television series. Must be. I cannot imagine CBS trying out a new crew, new century, new ... whatever ... when the TOS brand sells fine. All it needs is some rearranging ... some seasoning ... some tarting up. That's all ... :p
     
  13. Warped9

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    The same question was asked when TNG was developed. The outcry from many fans was, "How can you do Star Trek without Kirk and company?"


    And there are degrees of drastic. Here's but one example:

    Captain James Kirk - transferring from command of a smaller and more combat oriented Starfleet vessel. He's replacing former ship's Captain, Christopher Pike, who commanded the Enterprise for its first six years.
    Commander Nyota Uhura - she is the ship's Executive Officer and dubious of Pike's replacement. She is an experienced Contact Officer in dealing with alien races.
    Lieutenant ILyik Spock - a young Vulcan/Romulan hybrid and ship's Science Officer.
    Lieutenant Commander Lenora McCoy - recently assigned as ship's Chief Medical Officer.
    Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott - a veteran spacer of many years and deeply involved in designing and building the Enterprise. He has been ship's Chief Engineer since launch and worked closely with Commodore Robert April who directed the new starship program.
    Lieutenant S'ulu - a Medusan who must always wear a contact suit. He is the ship's exceptional HelmNav.
    Lieutenant Olesya Chekov - ship's Chief of Security.


    The setting is the 28th century. The Federation is recovering from a protracted war with the Romulan Empire ending forty years ago, a war that dragged for thirty years. The Federation had been a burgeoning alliance prior to the conflict encompassing many worlds and are now seeking to regroup its alliance. The war ended in a draw and both sides are intent on solidifying their status with current, former and new allies.

    The Enterprise is among the vanguards, dispatched into the Sagittarius Arm to re-establish contact with former allies and resume exploration of unknown regions.

    The Klingons - once leaders of a great empire who are rumoured to reside somewhere in the Sagittarius Arm. The Federation and the Romulans are each intent on finding if this mysterious race still exists.
    The Andorians - allies of the Federation
    The Gorn - allies of the Romulans



    From this you have a great deal of familiar elements yet rearranged to some extent. But you're starting with a clean sheet in every other respect. Familar aliens don't have to look exatcly like or anything like what we've already had. The centuries of pre-history (post our contemporary times) becomes completely blank to be rewritten as desired. The science and technology is properly updated and extrapolated further than what we're already familiar with.

    You can still have familiar elements. Zefram Cochrane could still have developed the space warp only the when and where he did it could be different. Sleeper ships and fast relativistic ships were used by Earth for a couple of centuries before the development of FTL warp drive. You could have a bit of rare Earth concept thrown in where the Federation was built up over centuries with fewer advanced races. The new Spock could be in a touchy position with some because he carries the blood of the enemy in his veins even though his father (or mother) is Vulcan.

    This is but one example of fashioning something that is unmistakably Star Trek and yet it isn't bogged down by what came before neither does it erase what came before.
     
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  14. DonIago

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    If you're going to make that level of change, why not go all the way and call it something else entirely?
     
  15. Warped9

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    You could, and thereby avoid a lot of hand-wringing from some fans. But this way you have a built in audience to get started.

    The changes I'm suggesting aren't really all that drastic. Much of it lines up with what came before only you shift elements around a bit. It's really little different than a Superman or Batman reboot where everything is in place yet some of it is a bit different.

    Now if the writing and acting and production are up to scratch then there's no reason it couldn't work.
     
  16. Kelthaz

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    I would rather have stuck with the original continuity, but that ship has long since gone to warp. Yeah, a full reboot would be better than this half-assed alternate timeline that neither has the rich history of the Star Trek universe to craft stories from or the freedom to carve out its own path. It's a lose-lose situation.
     
  17. Warped9

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    Considering how disenchanted I had become with the existent continuity (let alone JJtrek) I would just assume they start from scratch.

    I think it's also safe to say it's unlikely any successive relaunch will run several spin-off series and films.
     
  18. Jonny

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    :lol:
     
  19. Hober Mallow

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    This.
     
  20. Shaka Zulu

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    So introducing a little darkness into Star Trek is wrong?
     

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