New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

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  1. Christopher

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    The fallacy there is that you're equating complexity with confusing design. It's possible for a well-designed diagram to convey complex information in a clear and cohesive way. This one does not. If anything, I'd say the problem is that it's too simple -- it lacks enough information to get things across clearly. For instance, in what order are we supposed to follow the symbols? What do the different colors and types of link represent? Why do some of the arrows go both ways?
     
  2. CorporalCaptain

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    I think it more aspires to be a flowchart than it actually is one. It certainly doesn't obey the conventions of flowcharts.

    The arrows flowing in both directions instantly disqualify it from being called one.

    And when there are multiple paths out of a step, which in a flowchart must be designated by a diamond, an explicit test or question, generally yes/no, must be specified to decide which path to take, which must be labeled.

    Just sayin'.
     
  3. cooleddie74

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    That's where my issues with it lay. That's what I meant by overly complicated. What do all the colors and symbols mean to the more casual fan or even uninitiated viewer of the Prequels? I don't think the chart is too large or lengthy, in fact it's pretty small insofar as flow charts based on popular sci-fi/fantasy universes tend to go....I just think a lot of observers wouldn't know what on earth half of the symbols, multidirectional arrows and dotted lines mean.

    I get it all and with no problems because I'm a lifelong Star Wars geek who paid more attention to that universe than I probably should have. ;) Others who are much younger, just getting into the Saga or are completely new to the story? They'd probably be lost without a paddle.

    For instance, there's an image of Asajj Ventress from the Clone Wars storylines both old and new. Unless you've been watching the two different Cartoon Network series and reading the associated written materials dating back to 2003 then you likely won't have one clue as to who that little image is supposed to represent, which means you won't understand the Count Dooku connection with her - and that's if a recent fan or newbie remembers or even knows Dooku to begin with.
     
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    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. :p
     
  5. Ain Jalut

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    Is Sifo Dyas on the chart? I cannot see him.
     
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    He's got a cloaking device.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    Until we see him in one of the unreleased "Season 6" arcs the only images of Sifo-Dyas are from, I believe, a graphic novel or two that depict some of his interactions with Dooku around the beginning of the clone project and thus shortly after the events of Episode I, before the Separatist movement ever began.
     
  9. Hound of UIster

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    It was only a short comic I think.
     
  10. Shawnster

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    I got the impression from the radio drama that Luke had a few adventures of his own long before the droids showed up. Fighting sand people, racing his armed hopper and hunting wamprats could make for some interesting adventures without involving the Empire.
     
  11. Ain Jalut

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    Also not geting laid.
     
  12. cooleddie74

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    Threepio: "You shoot innocent animals for fun? That's sick!"

    Luke: "There's two suns and no women! What am I supposed to do?!"
     
  13. Dream

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    Didn't Luke have a female friend that went on to do softcore porn?:)
     
  14. Mr Light

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    I think that requires an explanation :eek:
     
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    I thought the Camie thing was common knowledge to SW fans? :rommie:
     
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    I remember a few of the theories dating back to the time of the original release of AOTC and the first mysteries regarding Sifo-Dyas. One was that he never actually existed, or that he had been a Sith agent or spy on the Jedi High Council during his tenure and working for Darth Sidious to undermine the Order and also the Republic from within.

    The first theory didn't hold because Obi-Wan clearly remembered him along with the time of his death when the Kaminoans mentioned his name, and I doubt Obi-Wan and every other Jedi at that time could have been fooled into believing a non-existent Master was real. Besides, he was supposed to be on the Council, and if he never existed that would have made Council sessions kind of awkward.
     
  19. Christopher

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    Unless his name was Tuttle.
     
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    She 'went out with' Prince Andrew. She was very pretty and apparently rather nice.

    Camie and Fixer along with (I think, Deke and Windy ?) were Luke's friends on Tatooine. They appeared in the famous deleted scenes from Star Wars and didn't believe Luke about the space battle happening above them.

    As I said earlier, animating those scenes with the original dialogue tracks would be a perfect way to finish the very last episode of 'Rebels'.
     

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