New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

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  1. Mr Light

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    Living Force = living things

    Cosmic Force = dead things going back into the soup
     
  2. Reverend

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    Splitting hairs, but I think it's not so much "dead things" as it is the same living force unbound by living bodies. Hence "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."
     
  3. Mr Light

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    well I was gonna say ghosts/spirits, but I was going for a joke :lol:
     
  4. Buck Bokai

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    Just for reference, the Empire's propaganda posters can be found here, if anyone hasn't seen them before.
     
  5. Christopher

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    I dunno... You'd think that if the Empire were that concerned with propaganda painting themselves in a good light, they would've designed helmets that didn't look so menacing and evil. The uniform designs suggest a propaganda mentality more geared toward intimidation and fear.

    But then, maybe different branches of the Empire are on different pages about what their goals should be -- the folks in charge of designing the military uniforms are operating on a "scare everyone into submission" policy, while the people over in the public outreach department are trying to make the Empire look friendly and protective, and the department heads are constantly sending frustrated memos up the line about how the other guys are undermining their efforts. I would totally watch an episode about that.
     
  6. Beagleman

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    There were a bunch of guys a few years ago with similar uniforms some of wich actually had Skull and Bones on them, their propaganda posters looked more or less the same...
     
  7. davejames

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    I wouldn't say the various Empire helmets look especially evil on their own. The Stormtrooper ones have always looked fairly neutral to me, and the Scout Trooper one is almost friendly looking. It's only really Vader's helmet that I would say looks truly sinister.

    And besides, I imagine most people probably got used to the basic design and aesthetic with the Clone Troopers (who if anything looked even more evil and sinister than the later Stormtroopers).
     
  8. Christopher

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    ^The TIE pilot outfits are all-black and kind of insectoid-looking. They aren't exactly warm and fuzzy.
     
  9. Steve Roby

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    In other words, the characters in the book aren't those people in the show yet. The book's a prequel that involves only a couple of the key characters, so I don't see much need for waiting. YMMV.
     
  10. cooleddie74

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    I've gotta agree on the TIE Pilot as well as the AT-AT Driver uniforms and armor. Those officers weren't exactly cuddly teddy bears of soft, warm Imperial diplomacy. The TIE Pilot outfit has always been dark and sinister and evoked an atmosphere of danger and oppression by the Imperial military.
     
  11. davejames

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    Maybe, but the fact they looked like a couple of kids wearing oversized helmets when we see them walking through the Death Star in ANH kind of undercut a lot of that menace I think. :p
     
  12. Herkimer Jitty

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    That just makes it easier to pick up chicks*

    *or studs
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    Hey, you know what they say: the Emperor doesn't care which direction you swing and point your weapon. As long as you swing and point it at a good target.
     
  14. FredH

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    Something that's bothered me about the Rebels shorts so far: Each one presents mostly-unworried protagonists basically traipsing through an encounter with Keystone Kop Imperials who are never much of a threat, and (more importantly) whom the characters themselves don't see as a threat. Sure, in story terms, Stormtroopers were never much of a threat to Luke & Co.--but Luke & Co. didn't know that, and these guys seem to.
     
  15. davejames

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    Yeah I agree things have seemed a little too easy so far. But then this is apparently the very early days of the Rebellion, so it could be that the Empire isn't fully prepared yet for any major resistance, and hasn't really clamped down or hardened up it's forces as much as it later will.
     
  16. cooleddie74

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    Also, it's important to remember the opening crawl of A New Hope, which clearly states that just prior to the events of the original film the Rebel Alliance had just won its first major victory against the Empire. The Rebellion was still scoring early and important achievements in the Galactic Civil War at the time of the original movie.

    The Rebellion in the new TV series isn't going to be anything close to the disciplined and well-armed alliance that it was in those films, so clumsiness and ineptitude can be expected during this earlier and less-organized time period.
     
  17. CorporalCaptain

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    First major victory is a fair interpretation, but the crawl literally says "first victory," of any kind, at least involving spaceships: "Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire."
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    Even more reason to expect less out of the Rebels seen in the new show and not some refined band of feared guerilla warriors scoring win after decisive win.
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

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    I suppose it might be argued that the crawl is speaking only of a victory for spaceships striking from a particular hidden base, but I think that would be taking it too far to split hairs for too fine a point.

    I'd settle for small victories for the Rebels but amidst greater setbacks, and everything moving towards a major space battle that the Rebels have to win to secure the Death Star plans.
     
  20. cooleddie74

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    That would make sense. Much like WWII-era guerilla movements within occupied nations couldn't help score the final, decisive blows and secure victory and liberation until the Allied invasions of the continent from the Mediterranean and the English Channel, the Rebellion of this earlier time has to settle for much smaller wins that don't do much more than disrupt and embarrass the plans of the Imperials, but give strong moral and psychological support to the Rebel cause and encourage it to continue until the final victory can be achieved.