New Build, USS Vengeance from Star Trek XII

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by MadMan1701A, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. King Daniel Beyond

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    Hey, if they can built that insanely huge mushroom spacedock we saw in STIII, ships twice the length of the Enterprise-D shouldn't be a problem. And of course, the real-life reason is a HUGE budget increase, which led to shuttles bigger than DS9's runabouts and massive locations being used for starship engineering sections.

    Technically, with the USS Kelvin being so much bigger than the TOS Enterprise (it's saucer is double the diameter and it's engineering hull longer), the question is: Why did Starfleet Prime shrink their frontline ships so much between 2233 and 2245?:vulcan:

    We have a massive thread on the nuTrek ship sizes here: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=211333



    Hey, Madman1701A, how about orthos of your finished and textured USS Vengeance?:)
     
  2. MadMan1701A

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    Yeah, I need to get around to doing that.

    Having the 3D printer has gotten me distracted. :)

    -Ricky
     
  3. OpenMaw

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  4. Kotowboy

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    The Alt Enterprise is 2x the size of the prime Enterprise not 100.

    Which makes Vengeance 4x the size of prime Enterprise.
     
  5. King Daniel Beyond

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    I assume Ranasaad was referring more to the volume (and using a Vengeance-sized dose of hyperbole), which is in the vague region of 8x the original Enterprise and not their lengths, which are...

    TOS Enterprise: 289m (everything, ever)
    ST'09 Enterprise: 725m (ST'09 Bluray, ST: Art of the Film)
    Vengeance: 1460m (ILM STID scale chart)
     
  6. captainkirk

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    Wow. I'd say this is possibly your best work yet, Madman.

    I still disagree about the size, King Daniel, mainly due to Sulu's line about Khan jumping 30 metres which in my estimations makes the Vengeance 750 metres long.
     
  7. King Daniel Beyond

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    ^Remember, the Vengeance saucer came to rest at a >45° angle. Had it been horizontal, that 30m jump between the bridge and hull would have had to be 60.
     
  8. captainkirk

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    I took it to mean that the distance he traveled was 30m which would be the same at any angle.
     
  9. OpenMaw

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    That, plus Khan's onscreen description "twice the size, three times the speed" pretty much verify the size.