Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by foxmulder710, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. trevanian

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    If you see them as the current generation's answer to Cash&Epps [LEGAL EAGLES, TOP GUN, DICK TRACY, TURNER & HOOCH, VIVA ROCK VEGAS, ANACONDA 1 & 2], then that HAS to be the answer.
     
  2. Temis the Vorta

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    Because everyone would wonder when Romulans decided to start talking like Australians. :rommie:
     
  3. JarodRussell

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    I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?
     
  4. VulcanVixen

    VulcanVixen Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    LMAO seriously! that made me crack up.
     
  5. VulcanVixen

    VulcanVixen Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Don't they already have a Vulcan language? I remember it being spoking in the trilogy movie, Wrath of Khan. I could be mistaken...
     
  6. M'Sharak

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    The only thing I can recall in the movie which involved Vulcan and Romulan languages took place just after Kirk, McCoy and Uhura have barged onto the bridge to talk to Pike. The communications officer is listening to a transmission which he says sounds like Vulcan but can't understand. Uhura recognizes it as being Romulan (she's fluent in "all three dialects", remember?) and is ordered to take over the communications station and translate it. Perhaps they needed to "invent" some Romulan language for that?

    Also, they mostly speak English in Australia (aboriginal languages and those spoken by recent immigrants aside, naturally.)
     
  7. Rackon

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    Yes, there is every chance that the rhythmic repetition was there on purpose to convey Nero's emotional state and his fixation on his revenge - Nero shouted the lines after Pike attempted to convince him that Romulus was still there. It's not over-use , it's alliterative. The original poster obviously should star away from David Mamet!! (Nero BTW doesn't cut the good captian any slack and doesn't explain he's talking about a future Romulus.)

    I thought the dialogue in XI was actually pretty snappy, with almost no cringe worthy moments. In fact, it was rather touching in places.

    George Lucas only wishes he could write lines this good.
     
  8. trevanian

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    You thinking GLENGARRY with Spacey's infinite variations on 'would you leave?'
     
  9. Lindley

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  10. trevanian

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    Or Mamet by Way of Coon via Freiberger, w/ a 90s twist:

    Time and Time, what is Time?

    time is the fire ...
     
  11. Mr. Laser Beam

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    There was at least one member of Nero's crew who spoke with a British accent, so I don't see why it would have been a problem for Bana to use his real Aussie one.

    Heck, have we even heard one real Australian accent in the whole of Trek onscreen? (Don't anyone mention Lt. Kyle; John Winston is from England, not Australia. )
     
  12. Devon

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    Something I've meant to mention for a while... but we do hear Romulan dialect at the very beginning of the film when Robau is escorted on the bridge and we see the other Romulans at their stations. I noticed that in my third theatrical viewing!

    Apologies if this was mentioned already, but speaking of his Australian accent, in the first theatrical trailer it seems as though his delivery of "The Wait Is Over" is clearly with a non-North American/Australian accent. Then in the rest of the film it seems to be gone obviously.

    I agree. I caught some of Nemesis on AMC the other afternoon and that whole speech from Picard to Shinzon in his living room about being someone better and then Shinzon retorting with that "Voice of the echo" crap was like listening to nails on the board. They really tried to get too emotional and too "deep" and too "powerful" and it just ended up being uncomfortable more than anything. To me at least.
     
  13. trevanian

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    Nick whatsisname, 1999 guy, TNG's FINAL MISSION ep
     
  14. M'Sharak

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    ^ Nick Tate -- also appeared as Bilby in the DS9 ep "Honor Among Thieves".

    Aha. I'd forgotten about that.

    I remember commenting on that when the trailer was first released -- it sounded similar to the sort of mid-Atlantic accent used by Robert Shaw in Jaws, with the hard 'R' sound.
     
  15. Rackon

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    You can hear Romulan being spoken in the background on several occassions when the film cuts to the Narada - the stations and intercoms are all in that language.
     
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  16. God Magnus

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    I would only be really concerned about Nero's speech pattern if he happened to be talking about events that did not happen to have happened...or something...
     
  17. EnsignRicky

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    That's funny because I was actually distracted near the end when Nero went "I would rather watch Romulus burn... I would rather see my wife... I would rather... I would rather... I would rather..." Shit, I would have blown his ass up too.

    And rather enjoyed it.
     
  18. Brutal Strudel

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    And then Nero said "What's the frequency, Kenneth?"

    (See what I did there?)
     
  19. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Yes. Yes, I did. ;)
     
  20. donners22

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    Hey, Klingons are allowed to have English accents.

    Depends on which train you catch. I think I'm in the minority as an English-speaker some days.
     

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