Re: My Greivences of Nutrek. What makes me a hater... I loved that part of Into Darkness. One of my favorite scenes in the new movies. But, I'm referring more to something that fits into the larger story of the movie. Star Trek V, as bad as it was, is a good example. The Gorn invasion from the recent game also kept somewhat in theme with exploration and discovery so we know that's at least one time Kirk and crew were involved with such a venture prior to Nibiru.