Most Powerful Sci-Fi Civilization

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Harbinger, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. Chemahkuu

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  2. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ I thought TARDISes were sentient lifeforms unto themselves?

    Or does this just apply to special ones, like Compassion? And apparently the Doctor's TARDIS?

    IIRC there was one episode where the Doctor mentions changing the "desktop theme" to "coral". I guess this refers to the constantly changing control room appearance, which appears to be configurable at the user's whim.
     
  3. RAMA

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    Yeah, sounds like Lensman magnified. :lol:
     
  4. Peacemaker

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    According to the Doctor, there is at least one civilization that would undo either Time Lords or Daleks if even one of them went rogue: the Osirans. The Doctor trapped Sutekh, but had he lived nothing would have overcome him.
     
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    Santaman, the fact that the Cosmocrats can't communicate directly with humans is a limitation, NOT a strength.
    I'm sure it was introduced for the Perry Rhodan Cosmocrats in order to make them cool and mysterious; but this came at a price, depowering them.

    The Q, on the other hand, have no problem directly communicating with humans, despite themselves being beyond human understanding.

    TV trek didn't go too deeply into describing the Q.
    The trek lit line made it pretty clear that the Q are part of the ruling class of the multiverse, not limited to its iterations that include the federation's known history(ies).

    And now, the Cosmocrats rarely use their power.
    Any practical definition of power has to include not only the capability to do something, but the will to do something, as well. Apparently, more often than not, the Cosmocrats lack the latter.


    All things considered, when comparing the Q and the Cosmocrats, the Cosmocrats are the ones found lacking.
     
  6. Chemahkuu

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    I'm not sure, but it would seem...

    That all of them have a limited intelligence of their own when they develop fully enough to have a "brain" like organ or 'matrix'. But Time Lord's might somehow partially labotomise them by controlling their mental development over the centuries. The TARDIS we know is different, even among her own kind, it's possible she's very smart or aware, or was spared any control mechanism the Lords put in place and represents what they're meant to be. But they are lifeforms in their own right, not like the Farscape Levaithons.
     
  7. DWF

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    That was from Time Crash the Comedy Relief short and the fifth Doctor was refereing it being like a wallpaper theme. Since as we later learn the TARDIS has all of the console room in storage past, present and future.
     
  8. RAMA

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    In reference to cosmocrats and the Q..as I said, I find it bit pointless to comment on which super race is MORE omnipotent! However, in the Culture series, I think the Q are more advanced than the still technological Culture, though possibly on par with some of the species that have sublimed.
     
  9. Australis

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    ^ We might get a bit of a look at this in the latest Culture novel, The Hydrogen Sonata, which I haven't had a chance to read yet, but involves a civilisation in the last few weeks before it Sublimes.
     

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