Microsoft to restore the Start Button in Windows 8.1

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Candlelight, May 30, 2013.

  1. Candlelight

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    http://www.itnews.com.au/News/34515...dium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter

    Despite knackering Metro I found myself not missing the start button, then again I do have a rather large quick launch bar...
     
  2. Sephiroth

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    *looks at the classic shell start button* I'm fine, thanks
     
  3. Coloratura

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    *looks at Windows 7 Start Orb*

    Yeah, I'm not in a hurry. :D
     
  4. Mr. Laser Beam

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    *looks at Mac OS X Dock*

    Yawn. :D
     
  5. Gryffindorian

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    Still getting used to my laptop's Windows 8 without the touchscreen.

    Where I work, everyone just got a new PC with Windows 7 and Office 2010, which I seem to like better than the version I'm using at home.
     
  6. John Clark

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    Yeah, me too.

    I tried Pokki and while it worked, Classic Shell works better for me. They don't plan on updating to 8 at work any time soon (or ever if some of the IS guys get their way).
     
  7. sojourner

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    What IT guys in their right mind would want to update a company to the latest version of MS operating system??? It's virtually a truism in the industry to stay one generation behind (and sometimes skip a generation) to give time for MS to work out the bugs.
     
  8. RoJoHen

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    Yep. :lol:

    The couple times I have used Windows 8 on other computers, I have been confused as hell. Couldn't figure out where anything was supposed to be.
     
  9. Mr. Adventure

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    Without a touchscreen I think you're better off with a start button replacement (or waiting for this long-rumored 8.1). The Metro/Modern UI works OK if you have touch and play by the rules but I prefer working in the desktop of 8 with my keyboard/mouse and habits. With a start button, Win 8 is quite nice.
     
  10. Candlelight

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    See this is something I've never understood about people that have used Windows 8:

    Things are in a different place, the metro interface is new but not once have I ever found Windows 8 'confusing'. A co-worker who is VERY smart when it comes to IT took several minutes to locate the control panel.

    I found it in 10 seconds.
     
  11. cultcross

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    It's just familiarity - if you navigate a computer by knowing where things are, if they're all moved, you're back to square one again. I find myself wrestling Windows 8 into being as much like old Windows as it can be, instead of genuinely learning to use Windows 8 as if I'd never used an OS before. So I look for the control panel where the control panel used to be, instead of thinking 'right, where's the most logical place for that setting to be on this new design?'. I suspect that's true of a lot of people who are used to being around IT which has always worked roughly the same way. You could argue it's backward of us, and it is, but you could also say 'if it ain't broke...' - what was wrong with the desktop layout?
     
  12. Coloratura

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    ^ Exactly. I set a system up for my Aunt and W8 was as confusing as hell (it also crashed twice on setup), and I've been using Windows, in one form or another, since 1993. Not once was I confused or stymied by any particular layout. Windows 8 is fine for tablets. I think it's a poor option for desktops and laptops that don't have touch screens, though.
     
  13. Tribble puncher

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    To me, the main problem seems to be how microsoft's p.r. dept is handling Window's 8. They've either been denying people are unhappy, or are basically saying "this is the future, so deal with it" and making people who bought a non-touch device feel like second class citizens. it would have been very simple to release a quick update that would have allowed you to boot to the desktop mode, or have this out of the box, they could have prepared a separate "demo" for non touch screen computers to show off the desktop mode at retail stores. The Mouse and Keyboard aren't dead, Apple is proving that by selling more Macs than ever.
     
  14. RoJoHen

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    Indeed. Tablets are gaining popularity, for sure, but that's because of their portability. If I'm sitting at a desk typing stuff out or creating some designs or photoshopping stuff, I want a mouse and keyboard.

    I've been using a MacBook for the last 5 years, and I'm seriously considering my next computer to be a traditional desktop.
     
  15. Coloratura

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    Well said.

    I like Microsoft, I've been an avid Windows user for decades, but I like to remain as open minded as possible, so I try to stay as familiar with other operating systems as much as possible. I've used Apple's various OSes since the Apple IIe days. I use various flavors of Linux, and even a few niche OSes, just to get a feel for them. Windows 8 is not very user friendly.

    Actually, maybe it should be said that Windows 8 is TOO user friendly, in that they think all you need is right there in front of you, and if you want to do anything, like use the control panel, well you must be a power user. I think they've underestimated how people prefer to use their computers.

    Mouse and Keyboard do not like a touch based interface. A desktop is a bad place for a touch based interface anyway. Can you imagine working 6-8 hours a day constantly tapping your screen? That would get tiring real fast, yet Microsoft just rolls right over any such objections and says, "No! One OS for everything is totally going to work! Especially when we made that OS more for a tablet!"

    It's like saying a lawn mower engine works fine in a lawn mower, so it should do just as well in a boat, a car, and a plane. Don't worry, you'll get used to it!
     
  16. Kelthaz

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    Meh, who cares? Everyone knows that you skip the even numbered Windows.
     
  17. FPAlpha

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    Same with me.. a bit before last Christmas my dad got himself a new netbook and my task was to get it up and running.

    Granted.. installation ran very smooth and quite fast.

    However once i started to play around with it.. as Sam Beckett used to say: "Oh Boy.. " :scream:

    I am used to cleaning up Windows and deinstalling/changing crap everytime i do a clean Windows install i was not prepared at the level of crap Win8 came with.. some things were downright maddening in its insistence to let itself known and force you to install/login to enable certain features (which often enough you don't want/need).

    Currently running Vista for a few years and only recently got some small problems with performance and such so i'm contemplating a clean reinstall.. might even get Win7 but i'll be putting a huge distance between me and Win8.
     
  18. RoJoHen

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    Valid point. :lol:

    XP and Windows7 are great. Hell, we still have XP at work!
     
  19. Kelthaz

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    I'm running Vista at work. :(
     
  20. RoJoHen

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    At least you get the neat Bubble screensaver. Pretty sure that's the only good thing that came out of Vista.