MASSIVE Elementary School Shooting in CT *12-24 Maybe be dead

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  1. Data Holmes

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    Anyone who seriously uses the term assault weapons is both a massive ignorant fool when it comes to firearms, and buying into a political buzzword created by racists who wanted to scare white people and disarm black people.
     
  2. The Engineer

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    Are you saying that black people are predisposed to using a certain type of weapon? That's pretty racist, bro.
     
  3. cooleddie74

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    Please tell me you did not just play the race card and imply that gun control advocates who simply have a different opinion from yours are racists who don't like blacks.

    Black people tend to carry certain types of weapons? Who's being racially questionable and insensitive again?
     
  4. Data Holmes

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    Ya mean like those evil librul bastards that run run "Guns Digest", "Soldier of Fortune" magazine, and the advertising campaigns of the gun manufacturers themselves? Sorry fella, but "assault weapons" was an industry term long before anyone in the anti-gun lobby or the so-called liberal media adopted it.
     
  6. Data Holmes

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    Assault weapons was a political term created by Hitler.
     
  7. cooleddie74

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    And....that makes Godwin #457 for the week.
     
  8. Squiggy

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    Yes. We're racists. Don't forget socialist, and somehow nazis. You're duly winning the national debate with that brilliant tactic.

    I guess your just doing what the NRA did at its conferenceless press conference today and just throwing anything out there hoping it sticks.

    You could blame 20 year old video games, or Soul Train.
     
  9. Data Holmes

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    it's a fact.

     
  10. Squiggy

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    That's the stupidest god damned argument to anything in this thread of stupid arguments.

    Congrats.
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    You're still Godwinning by attempting to associate gun control with the National Socialist regime of the Third Reich. You're trying to tie reasonable, rational safety measures in the wake of Newtown and other massacres to one of the most bloodstained dictatorships in human history.

    If we're going to pull that little stunt then it might be interesting to point out that the Second Amendment to the Constitution was written and enacted in part by slaveholding bigots who didn't think women and blacks should have the right to vote or own property.

    How does that taste?
     
  12. Squiggy

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    And if calling it an "assault weapon" makes me a Nazi, then believing in the 2nd Amendment makes you a bigoted racist.
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    I must be stopped before I destroy all that's good.
     
  14. gturner

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    Yes, the truth was that the StG 44 wasn't for assault, it was for trying to slow down the relentless onslaught of the Soviet infantry who kept overrunning German lines. Hitler wasn't going to call it the "We are f*cked gewehr."

    Also, that book is about real assault rifles, which civilians can't possess without getting an FFL that would essentially make them an arms dealer. That's why it says "military and law enforcement" on the cover. One of my caving buddies once tried to turn his AR-15 into an assault rifle, and the ATF paid him a visit and seized every gun he possessed, which was a lot.
     
  15. Data Holmes

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    It's ironic that Connecticut is one of the states with an "assault weapons" ban, and has no AOT law. In fact, the CT legislature voted down just such a measure earlier this year which would have made it easier for Lanza to committ her son, and not be delayed with legal red tape... Red tape that may have allowed him time to snap and murder...

     
  16. gturner

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    And Dodd had the Nazi gun control act translated into English so we could base our 1968 act on it when we started having race-riots and inner city crime started getting out of contol.

    What's more interesting is all the Southern tap-dancing in their court rulings, arguing that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to blacks, and that free blacks can be banned from possessing any type of weapon. This happened after a few slave revolts here and abroad. Prior to those, in many Southern states, even slaves could have guns. (Why would you spend all day hunting in the rain when you have a slave that can do that for you?)

    Some much later court rulings on gun control measures explicitly state that "this law was never meant to apply to whites."
     
  17. Edit_XYZ

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    Semantics? Involving 'Hitler' Godwins? Really?

    Call them however you want - the fact remains, semi-automatic weapons with high-capacity magazines are designed to kill human beings and little else; are constantly used for this very purpose by losers in USA due to their wide availability (which is blatantly obvious to anyone who read homicides statistics, mass shootings statistics, etc); are far more efficient at killing human beings than the other 'weapons' available to said losers.

    These are obvious facts and most people are smart enough to understand them - especially when they're repeatedly pointed out to them.


    Which makes some people rather disappointing as human beings:
    I don't claim to be a saint or something similar - FAR from it - but I can claim with confidence that I would renounce a collecting hobby of mine if, by doing so, I could save the life of tens/hundreds/thousands of human beings.
    As opposed to engaging in obvious obfuscation attempts by straw-men and semantic irrelevancies, in order to keep my toys.
     
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  18. MacLeod

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    ^Well it's quite clear from some of the comments on here, that some people place greater value on owning a gun, than human life.

    After all if a ban on a single type of weapon or a total ban saved even one life, isn't that worth the price of a ban?

    No one is caliming that a ban of any type would prevent an instance like this happening again, it's all about minimising the chance of such an instance occuring again.
     
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  20. E-DUB

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    The problem is that if you put guards in schools, the killers go to malls, you put guards is malls, the killers go to theaters, or political rallys, etc, etc. They're always going to "hit us where we ain't".

    Having said that, what's wrong with guards in schools, in body armor, armed with tazers and trank guns. Hit an innocent bystander, nobody dies.

    As for the "What is an assault weapon?" Aside from "any gun aimed at you", it can not be defined by stock barrel, clip or any cosmetic consideration, it must be defined by capability.

    As follows:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxQNYPYFq1c
     

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