Lost 5x09: "Namaste"

Discussion in 'Lost' started by Agent Richard07, Mar 18, 2009.

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  1. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

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    Remember the first couple seasons when it felt like they didn't have 22 episodes worth of stories to tell and a lot of the plots were slowly treading along?

    Now with the reduced number of episodes, the plots have sped up and they probably could fill out a full season now. :(
     
  2. Gertch

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    They've been very good about keeping out bloopers.

    It's definitely a greyish smoke and Christian even turns and smiles at it while the other two are looking at the picture.
     
  3. DeafPoet

    DeafPoet Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah I know how meticulously they edit these things. No way there was a mistake. Especially in a scene featuring Christian. She's there on purpose but damned if I know who she is or what it means.
     
  4. TheGodBen

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    Average.

    I can't explain why, but this episode felt distinctly average to me even though a lot of cool stuff happened. The story in 2007 wasn't all that good and the story in 1977 was good and had some very good scenes but it just didn't feel all that compelling. It is right on the border of Above Average but it didn't quite make it. Normally I finish the episode and come right here to post about it, but this week I actually forgot and started posting in other forums instead.

    Enjoyable to watch, but it was just pleasant and nothing more in my opinion. I can certainly understand why others think it is Excellent.
     
  5. Corran Horn

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    Agreed. Jack didn't get anybody killed, really. Was he supposed to avoid going to the freighter and trust a guy like Ben and a nutso like Locke? And he's certainly not to blame that the Locke/Sawyer group pretty much all got killed.
     
  6. zengoth

    zengoth Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    voted average - but not in a bad way.
    it's a bridge episode, setting up chesspieces for the Next Big Thing.

    Anyone else worried about just how tough Sun has gotten? "I lied."
    I'd hate to think she spent 3 years learning how to play Ben's game too well.

    What kind of aptitude test do you think Jack had to have taken to get a janitor gig?
     
  7. McCoy

    McCoy Commodore Commodore

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    I think that instantly spontaneous "memory creation" only works on Desmond though, because of the way he was unstuck for a time. Daniel did say that Desmond was special and the rules didn't apply to him.

    So Ben did meet Sayid (and possibly some or all of the rest of the lostaways now in the past) in his youth. The question is whether he hasn't realized it, forgot about it, or is keeping quiet about it.

    Knowing Ben, my bet is on that last one.
     
  8. DeafPoet

    DeafPoet Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah. I think poor Sun may be on her way to Villain Town. :(

    The kind of phony baloney aptitude test Juliet could conjure up in half an hour? Keep in mind that they couldn't really say he was a doctor. I'd imagine there's a more rigorous scouting process for those types. Also, I'd guess they got jobs befitting what was needed so as not raise any suspicions.
     
  9. gh4chiefs

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    Nevertheless, Alpert and the "Hostiles" benefited from Ben's behaviour.
     
  10. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

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    I'm guessing Jack and Hurley just got the jobs of the two people who didn't come to the island. Then Juliet had to make something up for Kate.
     
  11. Mr Light

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    ^^ I bet Juliet is gonna make her clean out the polar bear cages :D
     
  12. chrisspringob

    chrisspringob Commodore Commodore

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    Apparently, when they cut immediately from the 1977 new recruits photo that Christian shows Frank and Sun to the footage of them actually having their picture taken, there's a guy on the right of the photo that goes missing:

    http://lost.cubit.net/assets_c/2009/03/5x09_1977_recruits_photo-2115.php

    http://lost.cubit.net/assets_c/2009/03/5x09_1977_dharma_recruits-2116.php

    Is this just a flub? A guy who ran up into the shot at the last minute before the picture was taken? Or does it actually mean something?
     
  13. Capn Flukie

    Capn Flukie Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Average in Lost terms is still damn good. :D
     
  14. Mr Awe

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    Above average. A very solid and enjoyable episode. It was great to see what happened to the other plane. The crash landing was pretty intense. Loved it when Sun clubbed Ben.

    The Dharma storyline is still enjoyable. It's interesting seeing Sawyer in his new role. He's using his con man skills in a new setting. Rather than ripping people off, he's using them to keep things going smoothly in the community. He's enjoying his new life and doesn't want things to upset it. And, therein lies the problem apparently. Maintaining that status quo appears like it'll take precedent over taking care of Siaid and maybe the others.

    So far, I'm enjoying this storyline. But, if things continue too far down the path of pitting the Losties against each other, I'm not sure how I'll like that. I'm sensing that it's time to either wrap up the Dharma storyline or at least that aspect of it.

    Mr Awe
     
  15. Mr Awe

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    My take is that for Sawyer, the others returning just represents a threat to this new happy life he's created for himself. Right now, that's what they are to him. His response, pipe down and do as I say. He wants to maintain the status quo.

    Mr Awe
     
  16. Mr Awe

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    I wondered why he could pick up the picture but couldn't help Locke with the donkey wheel? At the time with Locke, I figured he wasn't corporeal and, thus, was not physically able to help. That doesn't appear to be a case. Unless it was a writer oversight.

    Mr Awe
     
  17. Mr Awe

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    Wow, I was actually thinking that it we were further through the season. They've really covered so much material that it feels like it has been more! That's great!

    On one of my trips to India, I was told it means, "I respect the divine in you." It's a greeting.

    Mr Awe
     
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  18. Trippy

    Trippy NaNoWriMo Victim Admiral

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    I disagree. Sawyer is keeping his people safe in an unsafe situation, and has done so for 3 years. When Jack, Kate and Hurley show up, he has to keep them safe too. He feels responsible for the other castaways they haven't found yet (he and Jin keep looking), is sad and dissapointed that Locke didn't make it back (to the best of their knowledge)

    As Sawyer says, he thinks, Jack reacts. A very apt description from Zen Saywer :lol:

    I still contend, as I have for years, that Sawyer is the hero of Lost, not Jack :)
     
  19. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

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    I will say that, at the beginning, Jack was the better person to lead because they needed someone to act. It was when they switched from a survival situation to an antagonistic situation with the Others that having someone who thought a bit more would have been helpful (actually, Sayid should have been leader at that point). Now, they're goal is deceive others so they can live with them and Sawyer is definitely well-suited.
     
  20. gh4chiefs

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    That's especially true if you think back to the kind of person Sawyer was originally. Everything was "What's in it for me?" Remember he was the one who had Charlie kidnap Aaron so he could get the guns back.

    In fact, now that I think about it, I'll even say I'm not so sure that this remarkable turn around in Sawyer's character isn't almost as unrealistic as the smoke monster and time travel stuff.