Lost 5x08: "LaFleur"

Discussion in 'Lost' started by Agent Richard07, Mar 4, 2009.

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Grade the episode...

  1. Excellent

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  2. Above Average

    31.8%
  3. Average

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  4. Below Average

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  5. Poor

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  1. gh4chiefs

    gh4chiefs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I got the impression that maybe John and Ben are in the same time line as what they were in when they took off, based on the abandoned state of the Hydra station.

    EDIT TO ADD: I didn't really finish my thought here. I was meaning it appeared to me that Ben and John might be in a different timeline than the rest of the guys.
     
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  2. Chess Piece Face

    Chess Piece Face Commodore Commodore

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    Great episode! I love all things Dharma.
     
  3. Zulu Romeo

    Zulu Romeo World Famous Starship Captain Admiral

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    Nice episode, and great to see Sawyer take centre stage after a long while.

    The opening scene was great too, very season-openerish. I think they should've made that scene the season opener, just to screw everyone's brains up. "Son of a bitch...!" :lol:

    Nice to see DHARMA again. :cool:

    And of course I liked Sawyer and Juliet pairing up at the end there... but I could see that coming for a while, admittedly.

    Finally.... ZOMG STATUE! :hugegrin:
     
  4. Mr Light

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    The Locke-Ben group are living in the present, not the 70s. When Caesar looks through that abandoned office at the opening of "Bentham", the rerun-popup-trivia said it was Ben's Office. So I'd imagine the main group will spend the rest of the season in the 70s with Dharma, then the season finale will be them jumping forward to the present day.
     
  5. Mr Awe

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    Above average. I really enjoyed this episode. The Lost writers have done an excellent job combining the character developments with the plot developments. The characters grow AND we learn a lot about Dharma life and the jumping has stopped. Good progression all around (the BSG writers can learn from this except, oh, that series is almost over).

    Sawyer has totally changed to someone who is part of a community now and that change has seemed totally natural. The relationship between him and Juliet also seems totally natural even though it would've been hard to predict before. Not too long ago, see them life with Dharma would've been unpredictable but it was very enjoyable.

    It'll be interesting to see how they handle it with Jack, Hurley, and Kate. Clearly, Sawyer wants to protect his community, probably at the expense of the other survivors. I hope they don't go to far down that path because I think that'll get tedious quickly.

    So far so good. It's interesting. But, I hope their time at Dharma is limited because I think that'll get old.

    Finally, it's hard to say what the series is about at this point. Before, it was getting rescued and then getting back to the island and stopping the jumping. Now, they're back, the jumping is stopped. What else is there?

    Get back to their own time? Or maybe, go back to the distant past and check out that civilization? Maybe, but why? I think the goal of the series is at this point very unclear, at least to me. That hasn't interfered with my enjoyment yet but hope we get some indication soon!

    Mr Awe
     
  6. Mr Awe

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    If I had to guess, I think we'll get an episode that deals with Locke's 3 years with the survivors of the other plane crash. Based on the strangeness of his tale and Walt's premonition, it's easy to guess that things won't go so well between him and those survivors.

    Agreed. Loved how they combined the skills of his old life in with the new community loving Sawyer! Very well done. A joy to watch and very believable.

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  7. Mr Awe

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    It looked Egyptian to me as well. Add in the hieroglypics and the Ankh (sign of life) that was on, ironically, the dead husband of that woman, there's a serious ancient Egypt connection going on.

    And then there's Horace = Horus.

    Mr Awe
     
  8. gh4chiefs

    gh4chiefs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Forgive me, but I had to chuckle a little at that. At this point? I've felt that way all along. Just try to explain this series to someone who's never watched it. :p
     
  9. Tom Hendricks

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    The thing about the birth, Horace last name is Goodwin. The baby is probably the Goodwin that infiltrates the other 48 and is killed by Ana-Lucia and Juliettes boyfriend.
     
  10. The Evil Dead

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    I believe it's Horace Goodspeed... And that kid would be in his late 20s by 2004, Goodwin seemed a little older than that.
     
  11. Tom Hendricks

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    Ah, I think your right. Probably just mis-heard.
     
  12. Poor Juliet... her great life is now over with Kate coming back. Kate is like the Lana Lang of "Lost". Badly written, but idolized by the writers as some perfect paragon. She's just gonna fuck thing up, then ping pong back and forth between Jack and Sawyer depending on her mood. What an asshole.
     
  13. DeafPoet

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    Where Daniel's at in 1977 is anybody's guess. The Orchid's a good idea. Anyway his "I won't do it" spiel was pretty clear to me. He's talking about Charlotte's memory of him being crazy and telling her not to come back. Also, this was the first continuity error of the season that bugged me. How old was "Charlotte" in 1974? 4 or 5? Ben's diatribe in "Confirmed Dead" has her born in '79. Maybe it wasn't really her. Who knows?

    Kate has the potential to annoy me same as anyone else but I don't hate her nearly as much as a lot of people seem to. It wouldn't be Lost without her. That said, Juliet is one of my favourite characters (if not THE favourite) and seeing her happy with Sawyer was really cool. I used to root for her and Jack hooking up but now that I've seen her and James at work this season there's a lot of chemistry there and I'm sad Kate's come back to screw everyone's shit up.

    I used to prefer Jack over Sawyer, romance aside. This season (even before "LaFleur") had me really pulling for Sawyer. Dude is not screwing around and he's really come into his own.
     
  14. Locutus of Bored

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    I think it's supposed to be the Egyptian god Anubis. Notice what looks like pointy ears? Plus, jackals have four toes. And he carried the ankh (but so did other Egyptian gods), symbolizing eternal life and fertility - the Island can grant and take away both life and fertility.

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    I can't tell if that statue has four toes or five, but it makes little difference as they could just be taking the four-toed jackal thing more literally with the statue on the show.

    Anubis was the God of mummification and the afterlife, both very important on the Island, with its resurrecting bodies from the dead and Richard's insistence on retrieving the dead man (Paul) as reciprocity for the death of two his people.

    Would make the title of the episode "This Place is Death" more interesting.
     
  15. DeafPoet

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    So they are all dead!

    *Takes out a contract on Damon and Carlton; The Gods of Lies*
     
  16. gh4chiefs

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    Anubis? So where's the Stargate?
     
  17. The Evil Dead

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    As far as the romance stuff goes, I hope they just spend an episode or two dealing with Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliet angst but ultimately just end it with Jack & Kate being together and Sawyer & Juliet being together. Done, over with, let's move on with other stories.

    Anyway, I voted Average for this episode. Pretty standard Lost fare.
     
  18. Locutus of Bored

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  19. Here's a theory for you. Maybe Richard IS Anubis.
     
  20. Mr Light

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    I just remember another interesting bit, they talked about telling the Arrow to go to condition one alert or something like that. We learned earlier that the Arrow is about developing defenses/weapons against the Hostiles, but what exactly does that mean?