Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by The Overlord, Jun 20, 2014.
I think TOS has aged better than any of the spinoffs.
TNG with its counselor on the bridge is clearly a remnant from 70s and EST and all this gaze-at-your-navel beliefthink, it dates really badly for me (it seemed out of date even while it was on the air.)
A limited series on flix would be the way to test the waters, a self-contained story like a lot of TV has become lately, like FARGO and many UK shows. Shared expenses would probably be of interest to CBS too ... that way they can build something that was nice enough to be reused for any followups.
I think something targeted at kids could work, similar to the star wars clone wars CG series, something like that could work really well with trek, and compared to a live action series, wouldn't cost the earth to make.
Having a ship's shrink (which is what Troi is and what Elizabeth Dehner was) is vital for people to be able to function well, and to help them get back on track when something bad happens to them. It has nothing to do with EST, period; many ships in the present day U.S. Navy (for example) have them, as is evident in the story of Antwone Fisher. Maybe the execution was a little off, but the idea was and is sound, is a part of real life, and was a part of Star Trek from WNMHGB.
Little factoid related to De Forest Kelly; in the 1950's, he starred in a pilot episode of a TV series (similar to shows like The Silent Service, Navy Log , and Men of Annapolis) in which he played the ship's shrink on the carrier U.S.S. Enterprise (the show was not picked up.)
Having a therapist onboard the vessel makes sense (honestly, given the number of people aboard the Enterpirse-D, having several would be ideal).
Having Troi on the bridge never made much sense to me, though. One would think you'd want her to be busy being a therapist, which we're supposed to believe she has time to do in addition to her duties as part of the senior staff.
EXACTLY! Her being on the bridge is apparently just so she can sense the emotions of whoever they've got on the TV in front of them, so she's the equivalent of a drug-sniffing dog. Hardly worthy of these exalted 'better' 24thcenturyers.
You mean like The Animated Series?
As long as they don`t turn it in to a teen drama with lots of angst I`m on board.
I've always believed that was more of a Picard thing due to Troi having empathic abilities that would give him an advantage when dealing with people. On other Galaxy-class ships, counselors are stationed below decks, with that third command chair on the bridge occupied by the second officer or even not there at all, IMO.
It's going to be about that (partially) since they're human beings, and you need that for drama.
I don't think you need teen angst for it to be drama whatsoever. it's just lazy writing used on bad shows to appeal to the masses. Interesting drama can arise from situations that require organic character development, and by legitimate conflict between the characters. And like Trek has always done, interesting sociological commentary. I won't tune in to watch people stomping their feet, being melodramatic, and throwing tantrums.
No. TAS was (decent writing) but poor quality animation even for 1973. It can be done a lot better these day.
You'd need an action oriented show to appeal to kids, with lots of space battles, and ominous threats every week that could destroy the Federation. I don't even think you could call it Star Trek anymore with what you'd have to do to make it appealing to kids. And then once you do that it's basically canon.
^I like Star Trek Continues, Star Trek Phase II, and Star Trek Aurora, but even I have to admit that what Mrcasio wants is impossible.
There have been plenty of animated shows that have combined high action with drama (the recent Thundercats & G.I. Joe: Renegade shows, The Sensational Spider-man, Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, and the accompanying Justice League), so it can definitely be done.
As far as canon, I wouldn't worry about it because the odds are probably good that any Star Trek animated series may be set in its own continuity, IMO.
I know. But my point is that high action isn't really star trek. It'd be weird seeing that kind of action associated with trek.
Action has always been a part of Star Trek. Until now, it was just scaled down to fit the budgetary limits of a (live-action) TV show or a modest-budget movie.
Social commentary and character development has always been a part of Trek. Any action that occurred was a bi-product of that, and merely used as plot devices.
An animated kids show would have to be action oriented, and the plot will be written around that. Sort of like how Abrams makes movies.
I honestly have no idea what Trek you watch to say that Action is a part of Trek.
While a small number of episodes were primarily action oriented, the majority of episodes were dramas with action as a minor component.
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