Levar Burton aka Geordi La Forge criticizes Star Trek 2009

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by serenitytrek1, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. BillJ

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    But even if the story is true, isn't that human nature? When I was single and was with someone, I wanted to be so good that she couldn't remember her name much less the guys/gals she had been with before me.
     
  2. SalvorHardin

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    This whole argument over who wants to delete what and who exists or doesn't anymore in the imaginary Star Trek universe is probably one of the stupidest ever.
     
  3. KirkusOveractus

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    See? I knew Lou Rawls was a Trek fan! I didn't know he went that far with it, though!
     
  4. BillJ

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    Well, Burton has a vested interest as he's trying to get another paycheck out of the franchise.
     
  5. SalvorHardin

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    It would be in his best interest then to try and befriend Abrams, hoping to get some kind of cameo in the next one. Because other than that, another Trek paycheck is not happening any time soon. Even if Abrams was fired tomorrow.
     
  6. Opus

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    And that's the bottom line. It's sad to say because I like Burton a great deal, but he's coming off as desperate and pathetic.
     
  7. KirkusOveractus

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    While that's all well and good, note to Burton: You're an actor! Get another job! Do conventions! Do a Time-Life Music infomercial! Stop sucking off the teat of TNG! It's over! Put down the visor and walk away!
     
  8. King Daniel Beyond

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    That is true!
     
  9. Set Harth

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    You mean the Star Wars forums where anyone not seething with rage and butthurt over the prequels was accused of actually being paid off by Lucas?

    Those Star Wars forums?
     
  10. Kruezerman

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    I thought so. So really, if there is no such thing as a "smart" movie, why criticize Star Trek for not being one?
     
  11. TorontoTrekker

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    Perhaps, but as I recall, he and Michael Dorn were the two biggest TOS fans in the TNG cast. He may also be having a legitimate emotional reaction to seeing something he loves being changed.
     
  12. Ovation

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    But where has Abrams ever said that there is no other Trek than his that's of any validity? That's the most puzzling thing. If Burton truly believes Abrams has said something like this, I can understand his being upset. But has anyone actually said this?
     
  13. The Mirrorball Man

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    Well, lots of people have said it in this thread. So which one of us is LeVar Burton?
     
  14. SalvorHardin

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    Not me, I'm Gates McFadden.
     
  15. King Daniel Beyond

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    I'm Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner.
     
  16. chardman

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    So basically this thread could be called "Guy who used to be in Star Trek is critical of newer Star Trek incarnation where his participation is not needed or desired"?

    Gosh.
     
  17. SalvorHardin

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    Hmmm

    http://www.thestar.com/entertainmen...urton_talk_star_trek_the_next_generation.html
     
  18. M'Sharak

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    Just skimming over the text, but I'm not seeing anything about disquieting "things [heard] coming out of [the Abrams] camp" or citing Abrams' alleged (but as-yet-unsourced) "There should be no Star Trek except the one I make" statement. Could those have been an invention on the part of the Toronto Sun interviewer and not something Burton ever in fact said?
     
  19. JarodRussell

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    Well that's for certain, Abramstrek isn't shaking anything up, nor does it break any new ground. TOS on the other hand had a huge impact on society, especially on racial issues. Abramstrek is just pure entertainment, it doesn't provoke anyone (except hardcore trekkies), and it doesn't give you any food for thought. They could have done it, by introducing a new crew, or rebooting complete, introducing homosexual, religious and whatever issues. But they went for a film were the most controversial idea is that Uhura makes out with Spock.
     
  20. The Mirrorball Man

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    Nah, not really. The original Star Trek was a well-made series, it was memorable and it had slight ambitions beyond entertainment, but no, it didn't have a huge impact on society or racial issues. For starters, I Spy was on air one full year before Trek, and its stance on racial issues was much more spectacular.

    When people portray Star Trek as a thought-provoking series, which admittedly is not a complete fabrication, they keep mentioning the same couple of episodes again and again and again, barely enough to fill a night of television entertainment. Yeah, some episodes were somewhat clever, but lots of them were not, and it was the kind of "clever" which seems much more impressive when you're thirteen.