Let's Talk About Horror Fiction and Film

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  1. Spaceman Spiff

    Spaceman Spiff Abuse of Power Administrator

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    A bit of bad news about it, though. Apparently, Michael R. Thomas, a make-up artist and the actor playing Dracula in this movie, passed away a few weeks ago.

    It looks like he was a make-up artist on quite a few big movies, including the Ghostbusters films, Fatal Attraction and a whole lot of films with "erotic" in the title. :lol:

    Hopefully, this movie will be a nice tribute.
     
  2. RJDiogenes

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    Aw, that's a shame. :( That's quite an interesting mix in his credits. I may have to track down An Erotic Werewolf In London. I have the Shock-O-Rama DVD, which is a pleasantly entertaining film by Bret Piper (an old school FX guy who still does things Harryhausen style).
     
  3. Spaceman Spiff

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    I guess it'll be time to rename this thread for Hallowe'en again in a few days. It's been going for two years, now. :lol:

    I've got a few updates. My recent reads have been:

    Deeper, by James A. Moore.

    It's a little bit Lovecraft and a little bit Creature From the Black Lagoon. It's a fun little book, kind of "Lovecraft if he were better at characterization." It's a bit light on the horror, except for a few parts that really stand out. At least one twist in the story is pretty much broadcast from the beginning, but it's still and enjoyable spooky adventure novel. It's a modern style of writing, but between the sea creatures and ghost ship, it'd be right at home with the pulps.

    Bad Moon Rising, by Jonathan Maberry. The final installment of Maberry's "Pine Deep" trilogy, including Ghost Road Blues and Dead Man's Song. It's a very satisfying end to the trilogy. Lots of times, the climax in the third book of a trilogy can be a bit of a letdown, but that isn't the case here. Maberry cranks it up to 11, to the point where you wonder if the evil can be surmounted.

    The only drawback to it was that it's pretty typo-ridden, especially in comparison to the first three books. I have a feeling that editorial pushed it through to make a deadline, which is unfortunate, since nothing else he's written has had this problem. Still, the trilogy was a fun read, and I'll miss those characters.

    Allhallow's Eve, by Richard Laymon. I wanted to get the jump on some of my Hallowe'en reading, since so much of it piles up throughout the year. This was a short, brutal little book. It's basically a slasher novel set on Hallowe'en, but the plus is always Laymon's direct, get-to-the-point style. He certainly never had a problem with pacing.

    I haven't decide what's up next. It just occurred to me that I have an old Buffy novel from a friend called Halloween Rain, by Christopher Golden.

    I've been feeling nostalgic for Buffy lately, and Golden's a pretty good writer, so I might jump right into that. Plus, hey, a maniacal scarecrow. :lol:

    As for movies, Deeper put me in the mood for a little Creature, and it occurred to me that I'd never seen the third Gill-Man movie, The Creature Walks Among Us. I threw it in, knowing that it's the least regarded of the Gill-Man trilogy. It was easy to see why, but it was still an enjoyable enough Saturday afternoon monster movie.

    I've also been listening to Themes From Horror Movies, by Dick Jacobs. It was a cheap little buy on iTunes, and it's fun to listen to. You can also get mp3s from Amazon. I assume there's a CD out there somewhere, but you might have to do some digging to find it.
     
  4. RJDiogenes

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    I put Deeper into my Shopping Cart. If it's Lovecraftian, Creature-ish and Pulpish and has Sea Creatures and a Ghost Ship-- and is set in New England-- it sounds good to me. :D

    I'm going to have to put together a reading and DVD list for October to start as soon as I finish Dune. I'm taking a week off early in the month and then the Thursday and Friday at Halloween, so I want to do some spooky marathoning. :cool:
     
  5. Spaceman Spiff

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    I hope you'll like Deeper. I'm always hesitant to recommend modern stuff to you, because I'm afraid you won't like it. But it's at least a short little read, and it has all of those things you mentioned.

    Did you ever get around to reading Summer of Night?

    pookha mentioned Robert McCammon earlier, so it also seems like a good time to point out that his new novel, Mister Slaughter, is available for pre-order.

     
  6. RJDiogenes

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    ^^ The Colonial setting appeals to me, but are these books supernatural horror or serial killer stuff?

    Heh. I guess I have come to prefer older stuff. Seems to be more steeped in atmosphere or something; or maybe it's just my love of history combining with my taste in literature. But I have nothing specifically against modern horror.

    Funny you should mention that. It's sitting in my short pile of candidates for Halloween reading, so chances are I'll read it this year.
     
  7. Spaceman Spiff

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    Re: Hallowe'en Reading and Viewing, 2009!

    Time to rename the thread! [​IMG]

    There is something about older fiction that's pretty satisfying in that respect. I enjoy the peek back into the way people thought in those days, especially people with tastes similar to my own in regard to the fantastic, macabre, etc.

    That's why I like to watch silent movies, sometimes. It's almost like a window back in time. Sometimes it's a struggle to get people to watch them with me, but I always think it's funny how quickly they adapt to the different storytelling techniques. It's strange for a few minutes, but after a while, your brain just slips right into the narrative style. Plus, any excuse to watch Lon Chaney, Sr. Man, that guy was great.

    I'm pretty sure you'll like Summer of Night. Like I said before, Simmons does a great job of capturing aspects of childhood. And there are some really spooky moments in there.

    As for McCammon's colonial series, I haven't read them yet, but I don't think they feature the supernatural, per se, but as I understand it, the belief in the supernatural as a reality pervades the books. But I don't think they're serial killer books, either. Here's the description of the first in the series, Speaks the Nightbird:

    It sounds more like a mystery than straightforward horror. Every time I read the description, though, it bumps a little higher on my next-to-read list. :lol:
     
  8. RJDiogenes

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    ^^ Sounds almost like Dark Shadows before Barnabus. :D

    Exactly. The old stuff isn't just about the past, it is the past. As I watch or read, I can't help thinking that people were watching these very movies and reading these very books in 1935 or 1925 or the 1890s or whatever. It's very cool. :cool:

    Yeah, I think I'll start in on this as soon as I finish Dune. I'm ready for a trip back to the 60s. :D
     
  9. The Lensman

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    Re: Hallowe'en Reading and Viewing, 2009!

    Usually for Halloween, there's a list of books or movies that I want to read or watch, but never get completely done with.

    In terms of reading....for several years I had a tradition where I'd read both "The House With A Clock In It's Walls" and "The Figure In The Shadows"...both by the late John Bellairs.

    These are spooky books written for young readers, but I loved them as a kid and generally prefer spooky stuff to horror these days.

    A new addition to my October reading is "Cat Burglar Black", a graphic novel by Richard Salas....it too has a young adult feel to it. If you love big mansions, secret passages, musty old library's, and mysterious happenings...you'll dig it.

    This year, I'm playing both "Hollywood Hijinx" and "The Lurking Horror" text games by Infocom. One is spooky old mansion mystery, the other Lovecraftian goodness.

    Also, the graphic novel "Black Planet" by Dan Brereton because the art style is eerily remeniscient of the 70's Halloween decorations my family had as a kid.

    In terms of viewing, I don't care for slasher flix because they bore me. I prefer the supernatural stuff, and the more traditional haunted mansion\castle stuff, (secret passages, foggy graveyards, ghosts etc.....and if anyone can recommend anything in these veins, I'd really appreciate it.)

    I usually try watch these movies in October:

    Planet Of The Vampires (sci-fi, but foggy planet goodness and more zombies than "vampires")

    The Cabinet Of Dr. Caligari (original silent)

    The Call Of C'Thulu (silent)

    and on Halloween, I watch The Shining.

    Picked up a few newer movies last year, none has really caught on. 13 Ghosts (old and new...the old one is beyond suck), The Others, The Haunting, Rose Red.

    Glad to see Something Wicked This Way Comes is out on DVD, I'll be picking that up this year. I envy you Northerners who get cold, blustery days and orange leaves around Halloween.

    Yes, I'm a huuuuuuuge fan of John The Balladeer.:techman: Though I prefer the short stories of "Who Fears The Devil" to the later novels. I've always thought Mike Mignola would do an awesome job of adapting Silver John to comics, especially as he cited him as one of his influences, early on, on his Hellboy stories.
     
  10. RJDiogenes

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    You sound like a guy with pretty good taste. :D

    Infocom, silent Cthulhu, John the Balladeer, spooky mansions, secret passages and graveyards-- yup, that's the good stuff. :bolian:

    I've never read John Bellairs, but my youngest brother used to (back when he used to read a bit :().

    If you haven't already seen it, I think you will like Old Dark House.

    Well, Deeper arrived yesterday (along with the new Lobster Johnson novel), so I'll be concentrating on that and Summer Of Night in October, along with magazines and the trust old Halloween Reader.
     
  11. Lonemagpie

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    Reckon I'll go through Kingdom Hospital this year, and I picked up R-Point in a charity shop for £1 so that should go well.

    Other than, still heading towards the last third of the X Files season 5 on the viewing marathon, and maybe I'll start on Angel season 3.

    Reading-wise I've a whole bunch of Koontz and King books in the backlog, though I'm more interested in writing - specifically the sample text for what will (if it flies) most likely be marketed as horror, though it's as much a dark fantasy or SF thing as a horror thing.
     
  12. tharpdevenport

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    No reading, but for viewing, I'll go with the tradition of the Garfield Halloween Special. Love that.

    And "Something Wicked this Way Comes".
     
  13. RJDiogenes

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    Trick 'r Treat has shipped. :bolian:
     
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    Just ordered "Star Wars: Death Troopers" If it's any good I might spring for the audio-book and put into my Halloween rotation.

    As it stands, Halloween day/night:

    -- War of the Wolds (Original Radio Broadcast)
    -- Rocky Horror Picture Show
    -- Young Frankenstein (Maybe)
    -- Death Troopers (audio) (maybe)
    -- TOS: Catspaw
    -- Pirate of The Carribean (1st one)

    And that's about it.

    Used to have an all out slasher-fic/b-movie scream-queen, b-movie fest, but the wife hates horror movies, and getting her to watch the old B&W horror classics is a no go.
     
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    Still have to say The Exorcist novel by William Peter Blatty and the original theatrical release of the film by William Friedkin....

    The book Amityville Horror is a good read as well...the movie sucked. Totally. Not. Scary.

    Stupid in fact.

    Any HP Lovecraft story.

    And it's a tradition to watch John Carpenter's original Halloween film and his version of The Thing on Halloween.

    Other films I recommend:

    1. Burnt Offerings
    2. The Changeling
    3. Gargoyles (1970s TV movie)
    4. Rod Serling's Night Gallery -- particularly Pickman's Model and The Caterpillar
     
  17. Spaceman Spiff

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    Yep. I'll be picking that up, too.

    His novel, Patient Zero, just got optioned for a film, too. It's sequel is also arriving soon.

    Man, I cannot wait to see Trick 'r Treat. . I was a little cincerned when I heard Dougherty had re-cut it to be more of Pulp Fiction-style anthology more than clearly separate segments, but reviews say it makes the movie even better.
     
  18. RJDiogenes

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    I hope I can force myself to wait until Halloween to watch it. :rommie:
     
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    I watched The Thing a few days ago. The next two horror films in the queue: Trick 'R Treat and The Midnight Meat Train
     
  20. Spaceman Spiff

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    I'm not waiting to watch it; I'm throwing it in as soon as possible. If it's great, I'll just watch it again in a few weeks. :D