LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Sho, May 17, 2014.

?

Rate One Constant Star.

  1. Outstanding

    13 vote(s)
    25.5%
  2. Above Average

    14 vote(s)
    27.5%
  3. Average

    18 vote(s)
    35.3%
  4. Below Average

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  5. Poor

    5 vote(s)
    9.8%
  1. DS9forever

    DS9forever Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2007
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    His 24th century novels are better.
     
  2. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Technically this is a 24th Century novel. It takes place in 2319.
     
  3. Stevil2001

    Stevil2001 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2001
    Location:
    2010
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Okay, 42 posts and still no one has posted a picture of the spines.

    C'mon people. What's important to you?
     
  4. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Oh, Stevil, it's too horrible to talk about. I caution you that the horrors I am about to describe may cause issues for those with weak constitutions.

    The spine... well, it's the same design as the first six Lost Era books, but it...

    It...

    How to say this?

    The band with the year on it is at a different height. :klingon: The title is horizontal and not vertical, squat and ugly like a stunted gnome.

    It's carnage; monstrous carnage on my shelves.
     
  5. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2005
    Location:
    On the USS Sovereign
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Why no mention of the DTI after two inadvertent time travel incidents?
     
  6. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    The novel is somewhat underwhelming. In fact, I distinctly remember almost falling asleep at many times. Though, to be fair, I have had issues with my sleep this past week. The story pick up one Harriman is brought in, and his stuff is actually pretty good. I'll hand it to DRG, he does a good job with Harriman and making him look decent and competent despite intentionally being made to look like a useless boob in his one on-screen appearance. I wouldn't mind another Harriman novel, at any stage of his career. Unfortunately Demora Sulu and her crew just didn't grab my interest that much.

    Also, the revelation about the Excelsior feels really telegraphed from one of the early chapters when Demora makes some off-hand reference to missing her father since the Excelsior's disappearance. As this is the first mention of Excelsior and its fate ever, and that it's only a casual off-hand mention, it seemed very obvious this would be picked up on later on in the book.

    Finally, this seems like a missed opportunity to reveal the Enterprise B's fate by leaving them stranded in the other universe. Hell, there is another mention in the book to the Ambassador class being developed, so this seems natural.

    And finally, on the nitpick side of things, did Starfleet have no record of the Excelsior being to Rejarris II? Or at least of it's last appearance being in that sector?

    Not relevant to the story. Since the first time was a flashback some sixteen years in the past, we can assume Harriman filed a report with them when he made it to the starbase. Although given that was only a trip forward of a few weeks, they'd probably file it a low priority. The second one is a bit more serious, but again we can just assume that whatever business has to be done with the DTI will be handled when the Enterprise makes it back in contact with Starfleet.
     
  7. Corran Horn

    Corran Horn Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2001
    Location:
    I-L
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    It's mentioned in the Excelsior portion that they had no real mission directives other than head 'that way' and explore. They also hadn't been to a Starbase is a year, I believe. Presumably there wasn't time to launch a buoy or whatever.
     
  8. Enterprise1701

    Enterprise1701 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2014
    Location:
    Sol III, Sector 001, 2016 C.E.
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    So then is this novel outright incompatible with Burning Dreams?
     
  9. Leto_II

    Leto_II Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    Location:
    Room 303, The Heart O' The City Hotel
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    In terms of Burning Dreams' references to Captain Sulu having commanded the Excelsior past the year 2308 (when the Rejarris II incident occurs), and even past 2320, yeah -- it's rather tough to reconcile, now.

    There are also references in other sources to the Excelsior having survived past the Dominion War, and those are now pretty well shot to pieces, too, though maybe some light retconning can change a few of those into references to a namesake-vessel or something.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2014
  10. Mage

    Mage Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Only about 80 pages in, but a quick question, and please NO SPOILERS in the reply, but this Odyssy from chapter 1.... was that from an earlier novel I missed, or will more be explained?
     
  11. Thrawn

    Thrawn Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2008
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    It's not from any earlier novel, but not much more will be explained - what you infer from what you read in the prologue is pretty much what happened. No big mystery twist that shows up later.
     
  12. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Indeed. Although Sulu only shows up for a single (rather pointless, really) scene mid-way through Burning Dreams, so if we were so inclined we could just dump that scene and keep the rest of the novel in continuity.

    Maybe Spock was dozing en route to Talos - he's getting older by this point - and had a Sulu-related dream? :p;)
     
  13. Allyn Gibson

    Allyn Gibson Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Location:
    South Pennsyltucky
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Goddamn it, Pocket, you had one job!

    :rofl:

    Just in case it's not clear, I am kidding.
     
  14. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Also, the kangaroo has swollen to a bloated three times its previous size and is bright pink. Nor is it safely contained in its box, having presumably burst out of it in the process of expanding.
     
  15. Paris

    Paris Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Location:
    In the future's past
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Just finished this one. I rather enjoyed it, but i do echo some of the sentiments up thread about the abrupt ending and the fact that the mystery of the whereabouts of Rejarris II's former inhabitants is never revealed.

    I like how DRG3 handles Demora and her crew, as well as Harriman (especially Harriman), and i really liked the whole Hikaru Sulu/Excelsior story. As for the inconsistency with MWB's Burning Dreams, I like to think that Starfleet treated Hikaru like they treated Kirk and gave him another Excelsior class ship when he returned all the way home, and then renamed it USS Excelsior NCC-2000-A in honor of his legendary service.

    I hope DRG3 is able to revisit this time period again down the line and give us more Demora/Enterprise-B stories. I also wouldn't mind more Excelsior stories if pocket ever decides to commision more :techman:
     
  16. 2of1million

    2of1million Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Location:
    Canada
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Not finished the book yet(I'm on chapter 9) but I'm liking it. I wish the story would move a bit faster, but I like the characters and what not. I think it's an improvement over Mr. George's "The Fall" novel which IMO was slow and boring as heck.
     
  17. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Thing is, by TNG there is another Excelsior with a completely different registry number.
     
  18. Corran Horn

    Corran Horn Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2001
    Location:
    I-L
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    I wanted to like this a lot more than I did. I thought "Serpents..." was great.

    The prologue (which is never really explained) gives them the magic 'out' in the end and it seems really cheap. So many things aren't explained - and while that's perhaps realistic it doesn't make for a great story in this case. Harriman is shoehorned in for no apparent reason. The Tzenkethi only show up so the blurb is accurate, it seems.

    In the end, I would've preferred reading a book about the 10 years the Excelsior crew was on the surface of the planet.
     
  19. Paris

    Paris Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Location:
    In the future's past
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Well...shit.

    Maybe in between? Maybe Hikaru got his new Excelsior and then...lost it as well? In the 2330's? Oh well...
     
  20. Paris

    Paris Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Location:
    In the future's past
    Re: LE: One Constant Star by David R. George III Review Thread (Spoile

    Here here! I would love to read more about that. Actually...more Hikaru Sulu stories in general would be most welcome :techman: