La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set

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  1. HGN2001

    HGN2001 Commander Red Shirt

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    As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating."

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  2. JimZipCode

    JimZipCode Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    OH! Did you sort of "hunt and peck" on the keyboard, until you felt like you had the melody right, and then transcribe what you had? Man, that's a labor of love.

    Does anyone know, has any of this music been published? I know various orchestras have performed some Star Trek music – I think the Boston Pops have had some Star Trek nights – they must have gotten the music somewhere. Bremner got it somewhere. Etc.
     
  3. Christopher

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    No, it's really not that hard. I didn't "feel" I had the melody right -- I knew exactly how they sounded, and just needed to find the right keys on the keyboard. Like I said, I have relative pitch, which means I can remember musical intervals accurately without needing sheet music. I also have a very good memory for music and sound patterns. If I hear something enough times, I can remember it almost perfectly. And these are music cues I've heard dozens if not hundreds of times.
     
  4. The Warlord

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    Thanks! :)
     
  5. Warped9

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    ^^ I think I know what cue you're talking about and I don't recall hearing it either. I'll try to watch for it my second listen through the set.
     
  6. Dalen Quaice

    Dalen Quaice Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Warlord - take a listen to Track 17 of Disc 2 of Season 3 about :34 seconds in; it follows McCoy's line in Spock's Brain and matches the clip I took from the episode. I think this is the cue but it fades out at ~:51 seconds in the actual episode.
     
  7. Bad Atom

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    So I have to ask, am I the only one that went straight to the unused material when listening to this set? I loved the alternate "Wolf in the Fold" dance and the unused 1930's cues from "City".
     
  8. Dalen Quaice

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    I went to City first.... In fact, the recording of "Goodnight Sweetheart" does not sync with the recording on my two precious 16mm film prints of the episode as originally broadcast. The voice is different as well as the arrangement of music. It seems to match the "restored" copy by the Sci-Fi channel, but it is NOT the original broadcast version. The original broadcast as aired had Rudy Vallée singing taken from the soundtrack of The Palm Beach Story (1942). At some point in 1983 or so when the distribution of Trek moved to videotape, the original vanished and I presume an alternate recording was used...perhaps they recorded another version at the scoring session but liked the vintage sound of the movie soundtrack? I recall seeing it in syndication with no voice at all in the 90's. And, of course, they replaced the song all together as well as other incidental music on the Laserdisc and some VHS/Beta copies in the 80's. Curiously, I have a VHS from 1985 that has the same version as used by the Sci-Fi Channel. Paramount no longer owns the rights to this movie so I don't guess we'll be seeing the original broadcast version on any official release.
     
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  9. The Warlord

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    You've got the right place, but it's a little after this. This version of the cue is slightly different to when it's heard a few moments later. Listen on to after McCoy says "But there is no mind" and then Kirk refers to the girl, and you'll hear it again but slightly different, and it is this different version that was recycled but is not on the set.
     
  10. Dalen Quaice

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    Warlord --- Well the music is certainly edited. It fades out as Kirk says, "She took it" -- at least it does on the 2 episode DVD copy that I took a clip from as reference. Wouldn't shock me to know that the audio is slightly off on this disc. What version of this episode are you using?

    I think it goes like this:

    MCCOY: No. That incredible Vulcan physique hung on until the life-support cycle took over. His body lives. The autonomic functions continue. But there is no mind.

    KIRK: That girl.

    [Start the cue]

    SCOTT: Aye.

    MCCOY: What girl?

    KIRK: From that ship. She took it. [Cue fades] I don't know why, or where, but she must have taken it. Bones, how long can you keep him functioning?

    * I relistened several times, and I think you are correct. The version of this cue as used in this scene is not on on the disc. Track 17's cue plays earlier. However, I can still hear the same motif in the ending of the cue as Kirk speaks and it fades, so I presume it is indeed from Spock's Brain -- I "think" (stressing I am only thinking, not knowing for certain) it should be on Track 18 on the Soundtrack, but is missing -- It should be "NO MIND" although it says it is on the CD, it isn't. Track 18 starts with "Tense Moment" instead.
     
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  11. OneBuckFilms

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    I'm curious, I just realize there's a cue I can't find.

    For those of you who have this set, and have seen the Star Trek: Phase II Blood and Fire, the teaser for part 1 has some Elaan of Troyious music, immediately followed by this staccato, fast paced action music.

    Anyone know what this might be?
     
  12. Dale Sams

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    Christopher, where on the set...or what is the name of the oft-used melody featured in the Amanda/Spock scene in "Journey to Babel" when she's pleading for Spock to give the transfusion. I'm sure you can hear it in your head. "When you were a child..etc..etc.." Before the slap.
     
  13. Dalen Quaice

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    ^Season 2, Disc 2 - Track 6 "More Soup" by Gerald Fried, it was composed for Amok Time.
     
  14. The Warlord

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    Yep, that's it! I wonder whether it may have accidentally not been included...
     
  15. cbspock

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    and do you really care??? Are you that anal??? The melody is in pieces of other tracks.


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  16. Dalen Quaice

    Dalen Quaice Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    ^Yeah, I really care... and I am that anal for $225! LOL
     
  17. Christopher

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    It's not a distinct cue. It's just cut together from snippets of other cues in the episode. So it's all there. Nobody ever said this set would contain the edited, stock bits -- just the original version of each distinctly recorded cue.
     
  18. Dalen Quaice

    Dalen Quaice Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    ^It is distinct. And what episodes? And why would they reuse such a cue over and over again... does anyone have the cue sheet for Spock's Brain?
     
  19. Dale Sams

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    Thanks!
     
  20. The Warlord

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    Whilst it is only a few moments worth of material, yes I do care. Spock's Brain score is a favourite of mine, particularly that small section. Needless to say, it is not the end of the world, but on almost all the news items for this set, we were promised every note heard in the show, and I'm slightly surprised that cue went unnoticed given it's presence in a large portion of series three episodes. The guys did a splendid job with this and they deserve much praise; yes I'm subtly disappointed at not having that track on the set, hence why I posted on here to discuss. I may have been 'anal' about it, but to me that's what this thread is about - to discuss the set. And tbh there are far more picky posts than the one we were discussing.

    Warlord
     

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