La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set

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  1. Joe_Atari

    Joe_Atari Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Anybody up for some quick intros at the Egyptian on 12/3? Nothing fancy; just to place some faces with (TrekBBS screen) names.

    I've never coordinated anything like this before; open to suggestions. I just know I'll be there -- and plenty early to get a good seat so it sounds like we'd have plenty of time!
     
  2. doubleohfive

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    I will be there as well. Would love to meet whoever else from the board will be there!
     
  3. Indysolo

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    Lukas, Jeff, MV, Matt and I all recorded an interview with Daniel Schweiger for his show On the Score. I think it'll be available around November 26. We talk all about this set. I'm sure you'll all enjoy it.

    I'll let you know when it's available.

    Neil
     
  4. OneBuckFilms

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    Cool. I think there was something about this posted by Lukas on the FSM boards.

    My ears eagerly await ...
     
  5. OneBuckFilms

    OneBuckFilms Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Indysolo,

    Could these be presented in recording date order?

    I guess we'll see what the logic is when we see the listings for discs 3 thru 5.

    Then I suspect we'll get a sense of patterns. :)
     
  6. Christopher

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    *Retrieves The Music of Star Trek from bookshelf, turns to page 33*

    Nope, if they were in recording order, then "Charlie X" (8/29/66) would be between "The Man Trap" (8/19) and "The Naked Time" (8/31). I think they must be grouped by composer, at least within each season. For season 1, counting the pilots, that'd be 4 by Courage, 6 by Steiner, and one each by Kaplan, Mullendore, and Fried. Since a couple of Steiner's scores were partial, maybe discs 3 & 4 will be Steiner and disc 5 will be the other guys.
     
  7. OneBuckFilms

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    Composer, then production maybe?

    With miscellaneous and other material on the last 1 or 2 disks. Perhaps the Remastered re-recordings of the season's main and end titles starting and ending CD 5 of each season. :)

    We'll happily find out ...
     
  8. ScottDS

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    SEASON 1, DISC 3

    Charlie X
    Music Composed and Conducted by Fred Steiner
    Episode #8, Recorded 8/29/66
    Aired #2, 8/15/66

    1. Main Title* (cello version, arr./cond. Steiner) 0:51
    2. Space Orbit†/Charlie X/That’s a Girl M10/M11+M11S/M12+M12 chimes 1:20
    3. Kirk’s Command/Charlie’s Mystery/Charlie’s Gift M13/M14+M14S/M15–20 3:03
    4. Card Tricks M22 1:40
    5. Zap the Antares/Kirk Is Worried M23+M23S/M24 0:46
    6. Kirk’s Command #2/Chess Game M31/M32+M32S 1:33
    7. Charlie’s Yen M33 1:04
    8. Kirk Puzzled M34 0:51
    9. Zap Sam/Zap the Pistol M41/M42 1:37
    10. Standoff M43 1:12
    11. Kirk Waits/Charlie in Control M44/M45 1:08
    12. Charlie’s Mad M51 1:10
    13. Zap Janice M52 0:56
    14. Zap the Cap M53 1:32
    15. Zap the Spaceship M54 1:26
    16. Zap the Broad/Charlie’s Friend M55/M61 2:02
    17. Goodbye Charlie/Finale† M62/M63 1:50

    Total Time: 24:40

    *Contains “Theme From Star Trek (TV Series)” by Alexander Courage and Gene Roddenberry
    †Based on a Theme by Alexander Courage

    Mudd’s Women
    Music Composed and Conducted by Fred Steiner
    Episode #4, Recorded 9/7/66
    Aired #6, 10/13/66

    18. Distant Spaceship/Hint of Danger M11/M12 0:55
    19. Still in Danger/Meet Mr. Mudd/Three Venuses M13/M14/M15 1:58
    20. Venus Walks/Hello Girls M16/M21 1:29
    21. Venus Aboard/Exit Mr. Mudd/Venus Aboard #2/Strange Glances/The Last Crystal/Mudd Laffs M22/M23/M24/M24A/M31/M32 2:50
    22. Hello Ruth M33 1:03
    23. Eve to Magda/Mudd Plan/Mudd’s Perfidy M34–41/M42/M43 1:07
    24. The Venus Drug/Dwindling Power M44/M45 3:02
    25. Planet Rigel M51 0:43
    26. Space Radio M52 2:45
    27. Planet Rigel #2/Eve Is Out M53/M54 1:19
    28. Eve Cooks/Eve Is Tired/Pretty Eve M55/M56–61/M62 3:06
    29. Mudd’s Farewell/Back in Orbit† M63/M64 1:20

    Total Time: 22:01

    †Based on a Theme by Alexander Courage


    The Corbomite Maneuver
    Music Composed and Conducted by Fred Steiner
    Episode #3, Recorded 9/20/66
    Aired #10, 11/10/66

    30. Space Cube/Condition Alert M12/M13 1:22
    31. Quiet Cube/Radiation M12A/M23A 1:10
    32. Cube Radiation M23 1:20
    33. Fesarius/Fesarius Approaches M31/M31A 2:06
    34. Hideous Balok M33 0:27
    35. Baby Balok M61A 0:35

    Total Time: 7:11

    Balance of Terror
    Music Composed and Conducted by Fred Steiner
    Episode #9, Recorded 9/20/66
    Aired #14, 12/15/66

    36. The Enterprise/In the Chapel† M11/M11A 1:23
    37. Romulan Agitato 9MB 0:58
    38. Romulan B.G. 9MC 0:41
    39. Romulan Theme M22 0:56
    40. Theme From Star Trek*/Romulan Warship/Romulan Theme 9MA pt 4/M31/M22A tk 3 0:56
    41. Romulan Centurion M43 0:32

    Total Time: 5:35

    What Are Little Girls Made Of?
    Music Composed and Conducted by Fred Steiner
    Episode #10, Recorded 9/20/66
    Aired #7, 10/20/66

    42. Big Ruk M17A/M17/M17B 0:56
    43. Meet Andrea/Android Kirk M22/M22A/M42 1:10
    44. Ruk Protect/Ruk Attacks M43/M43A 3:18
    45. Ruk Attacks/Enter Andrea M43AB/M54 1:47
    46. End Title* (cello version, arr./cond. Steiner) 0:45
    47. Desilu I.D. (Wilbur Hatch) 0:04

    Total Time: 8:11

    Total Disc Time: 68:04

    *Contains “Theme From Star Trek (TV Series)” by Alexander Courage and Gene Roddenberry
    †Contains “Long, Long Ago” by Thomas Haynes Baly and “Bridal Chorus” by Richard Wagner
     
  9. OneBuckFilms

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    Ooooh, the Steiner scores now. :D

    And a little bit of Wilbur Hatch there. Didn't expect that little nugget. Well, it certainly is comprehensive. :)

    Discs 4 and 5 will be very interesting to see.
     
  10. Christopher

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    Okay, this is the first release of the original recordings for "Charlie" and "Mudd," but both were featured on the first Varese Sarabande album with new performances of TOS music conducted by Steiner. Cues here that were not included on the VS album include:

    "Charlie X":
    Space Orbit/Charlie X/That's a Girl
    Zap the Antares
    Kirk's Command #2/Chess Game
    Kirk Puzzled
    Zap the Pistol
    Standoff
    Kirk Waits/Charlie in Control
    Charlie’s Mad
    Zap the Broad

    "Mudd's Women":
    Distant Spaceship/Hint of Danger
    Still in Danger
    Venus Walks
    Exit Mr. Mudd/Venus Aboard #2/Strange Glances
    Eve to Magda/Mudd Plan/Mudd’s Perfidy
    Dwindling Power
    Planet Rigel #2
    Eve Is Tired
    Back in Orbit

    The other three were on GNP's The Best of Star Trek Volume 2, although the first VS album also includes a version of "Corbomite" that uses the identical track selections as the GNP album many years later. Previously unreleased cues:

    "Corbomite Maneuver":
    Space Cube/Condition Alert
    Quiet Cube
    Fesarius
    Hideous Balok

    "Balance of Terror":
    The Enterprise
    Romulan Agitato
    Romulan B.G.
    Romulan Theme
    Theme From Star Trek*

    "Little Girls":
    Android Kirk
    Ruk Attacks (1)
    Ruk Attacks (2)

    Also the Desilu ID is new, of course.

    A couple of the cues are in a different order on the VS album and on the GNP album. Also there are a couple of typos on the GNP: "Enter Andrea" is given as "Meet Andrea" and "Ruk Protect" is called "Ruk Protests." "In the Chapel" from BoT is listed as "In Chapel" and is separate from the rest of the BoT suite.

    I'm surprised at how short the BoT score is. I knew it was partial, but I didn't realize just how little new music there was. On the other hand, it turns out there are more unreleased "Corbomite" cues than I'd thought; I figured there were only 2-3 of them, but it's four, half the total. I'll be really glad to have the whole thing at last, along with the rest.

    I'm also particularly looking forward to getting the original "Charlie's Mystery" cue. The second half of that, a rising/falling clarinet motif which was tracked only a few times in season 1, is one of my favorite cues, but the version on the VS album is played far more slowly than it was in the original episode, for some reason, even though it's still Steiner conducting.

    Okay, so Disc 3 encompasses Steiner's first three sessions and five episodes. All that's left in season 1 are "The Conscience of the King" by Joseph Mullendore, "Shore Leave" by Gerald Fried, and "The City on the Edge of Forever" by Steiner -- plus assorted source music like Uhura's songs, the "lounge mix" of the Courage theme heard in a couple of party scenes, and the harpsichord music from "The Squire of Gothos." I wonder how they'll break down and what other extras will be on Disc 5.
     
  11. OneBuckFilms

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    I think the misspellings are due to GNP getting the track names from the cue list for the episodes, where they were misspelled and hand-written.

    The producers of this set took their cue titles from the score manuscripts, I believe.

    I suspect Disc 4 will start with the remainder of the season 1 episode scores, and maybe start and end with the "Remastered" main and end title re-recordings for season 1.

    Disc 5, I predict, will be the library cues recorded for season 1, as well as other odds and ends, some of which have never been heard. :)

    Then seasons 2 and 3 would follow the same general pattern.

    What is clear is that there was attention paid to the listening experience in arranging the CD contents.
     
  12. Indysolo

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    Oh, and a little something called "The Enemy Within".

    Neil
     
  13. Christopher

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    Oh, whoops! How could I forget "The Enemy Within?" I didn't check the list in The Music of ST carefully enough.

    So yeah, that's four scores remaining, three of which were fairly complete or at least moderately long. (The "Shore Leave" release on GNP's Volume 3 is 17:47 worth of music.) I don't think they can all fit on Disc 4. Probably Disc 5 will have at least one episode score plus the extras.
     
  14. Indysolo

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    I love The Enemy Within! Before I had the audio, I was sent scans of all of the documentation and I choked up when I saw the boxes for this score.

    Neil
     
  15. Christopher

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    ^Oh, definitely. It's one of my greatest regrets that Sol Kaplan only scored two TOS episodes. His work was fantastic.

    (One of my other greatest regrets, if anyone's interested, is that "A Piece of the Action" was stuck with a stock score. Just imagine if Fielding or Fried, say, had gotten to do a full, jazzy original score for that one.)
     
  16. Tallguy

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    I keep thinking I'm going to have to look this stuff up but now I'm starting to think "Oh, Chris will have done that already."

    So, Corbomite was the first produced, right? But it open with Kaplan's fanfare, doesn't it? (I'm making that assumption based on the fact that it is part of Label X's recording of The Enemy Within and it open The Doomsday Machine as well.) So how much later was that recorded? I'm trying to figure out the rhyme and reason of what was recorded when vs. what was used when. Whacky I tells ya.

    I'm astounded at how short some of these (to me) "definitive" scores are. Corbomite is only 7 minutes? Balance of Terror is Five?

    Just give me Hideous Balok and I'm happy. ('Cause it's also the music used for the Guardian of Forever.) Oh, and all of Charlie X. :D

    BTW, terrific way to roll out the track listings. It's truly an event.
     
  17. DonIago

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    I'm pretty sure the reason some of the scores are short is because only the original content is being included, not music lifted from other episodes.
     
  18. Christopher

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    A lot of episodes spent longer in post-production than others due to their visual-effects requirements. "Corbomite" had some pretty elaborate optical shots, requiring three new miniatures and a lot of composite space shots, so that must have delayed its completion. I'd assume that scoring was one of the last stages of post-production, coming after the effects were in. So by the time "Corbomite" was ready for scoring, there was already a fair-sized library of stock cues available to track it with.


    Well, that goes without saying, doesn't it? Of course those cues are included with the episodes they were recorded for. No point in duplicating anything. Tallguy's point is that it's surprising how little original music some of these "definitive" episodes had in them.
     
  19. DonIago

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    That wasn't clear to me from what Tallguy said, but if that was his meaning, fair enough. :)
     
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