Kirk vs the Dominion

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  1. bbjeg

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    Can you imagine if Spock had that Red Matter Ship during the Dominion invasion and drop a blackhole infront of the wormhole instead of Sisco's mines? Would Kirk have a chance?
     
  2. Infern0

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    Wow this is a confusing post.

    What timeline are we talking about exactly?
     
  3. teacake

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    And what if they dropped Data's head into the wormhole, WHAT THEN?!
     
  4. R. Star

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    The Prophets would merge with Data and he would BECOME GOD! :p
     
  5. bbjeg

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    It's an odd thought but Kirk always had a way of pulling a rabbit out of his hat. The question was really what would have been Kirks way of ending the dominion war. I guess probably what Sisco did, but the feds would of lost that one. Nevermind.
     
  6. BillJ

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    Kirk would've taught the Female Changeling in the ways of love and there would've been peace afterward. Until she found out he passed her space gonorrhea. :eek:
     
  7. R. Star

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    So that's how the Great Link was infected.
     
  8. bbjeg

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    Good one!:guffaw:
     
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    it is all coming together. :rofl:
     
  10. Bry_Sinclair

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    If the god-particle that is "red matter" was used on the Wormhole I suspect that the damage to subspace would be immense, probably enough to pervert any sort of warp travel along its course, not to mention it would kill millions on Bajor, its moons and the other planets, as well as DS9 itself. It's use would be too dangerous for anyone to even consider using, let alone actually deploy.
     
  11. BillJ

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    I don't know? When Vulcan was imploded it seemed to have no effect on Delta-Vega which was relatively close.
     
  12. R. Star

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    The black holes produced by the Red Matter are very plot conscious things. Sometimes they crush you, sometimes they send you through time, sometimes they pull you in, sometimes you can just fly through, sometimes they expand, sometimes they don't.
     
  13. BillJ

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    I thought the movie was fairly consistent where Red Matter was involved. For all we know, there are other times where the remains of the Hobus star, Vulcan and the Narada ended up.
     
  14. Admiral_Sisko

    Admiral_Sisko Lieutenant Commander

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    Didn't that already happen in 2272? :mallory:
     
  15. Captain Clark Terrell

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    It was 2273, Admiral.

    --Sran
     
  16. JirinPanthosa

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    What would that do? Black holes don't actually have greater gravitational pull than normal matter, you can just get a lot closer to the center of gravity. Since that red goop didn't appear to have much mass, if you dropped one in front of the wormhole, anyone could just fly around it so long as they were careful not to touch it directly, and even then you'd probably pass through it because very few molecules would actually get close enough to it to be inside its event horizon.

    Black holes aren't magic gravity, they're just really dense matter, everybody knows that. :vulcan:
     
  17. R. Star

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    The folks who made the movie don't seem to. Sometimes they fly through them to another time. Sometimes they can fly away from them. Sometimes they can't. Sometimes they get crushed by them. Just whatever needs to happen at the time.

    I don't mind bending reality for the sake of a sci-fi setting, but I really do wish they'd be consistent at least in the same movie with what they're doing with the black holes.