Kirk Enterprise - the Enterprise(a)?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Cadet49, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Why?
     
  2. yenny

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    Cause I have serve in Star fleet in another life and because of the prime directive, I'm not allow to tell you why.
     
  3. Blip

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    Good grief.
     
  4. The Wormhole

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    The closest thing to canon we have is the Defiant's database in Enterprise's Mirror Universe story, though that portion wasn't actually visible on screen.

    The only concrete reference to the Enterprise's age was in Trek III when Admiral Morrow says it's twenty years old, but that contradicts The Cage.
     
  5. BillJ

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    I always figured he was talking about the refit.
     
  6. Mr. Laser Beam

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    But my point still stands - the original NCC-1701 could simply have been built earlier in the Abrams timeline. It doesn't violate anything established in canon if that happens.
     
  7. BenRoethig

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    That it could have. While technically everything before the Nerada would have been the same, we never got a cannon date on when the Enterprise was launched, just than Spock had served on it in 2254 under Pike.
     
  8. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Agreed.
     
  9. WarpFactorZ

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    Yeah, or another interpretation is "20 years out of date." Same difference.
     
  10. Nightowl1701

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    That's what I'm guessing. The Abramsverse Starfleet was on track to design the Constitution Class as we knew her UNTIL the Kelvin disaster (and the scans from the Nerada) forced them to scrap everything and start over from scratch. In the meantime, it was easy to slap existing Kelvin-era technology together in the intended configuration and launch that using the already-reserved names as a stopgap until the new Constitution v2 were finally ready. So April's Enterprise likely launched a decade early (2235), looking pretty much as Tobias Richter kitbashed her (check out the bottom three pics in the link):

    http://www.startrek.pl/article.php?sid=680
     
  11. gastrof

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    All I see at that link are three vids of the Kelvin. No pictures at all. Not of an Enterprise, not of any ship.
     
  12. M'Sharak

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    If you scroll past the videos on that page, there are indeed one, two, three images.
     
  13. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Commodore Commodore

    Actually, all I get are the three vids also...

    Must be something about ie9 that blocks them.
     
  14. M'Sharak

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    Hmm, they're just .jpg files hosted on Photobucket - nothing out of the ordinary about them. Maybe IE9 doesn't get along well with older-style html page coding. Are the images visible when you click on my links above?
     
  15. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Commodore Commodore

    Yeppers. :)
     
  16. yenny

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    On ST:TMP, Captain Decker had said; All those vessels were call Enterprise. Were, is a past tense word. Meaning that the Constitution class looking starship in the picture is not the same Enterprise as the one they are on, but a different ship.
     
  17. SeerSGB

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    Never heard that line of thought before. The Connie on display is just showing the 1701 before her refit.
     
  18. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    I think from Decker's perspective, the Enterprise is a new ship after the refit.
     
  19. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ Yeah, in another scene he says that it's "an almost totally new Enterprise". So in a sense, yenny is correct. It's the same ship, but it's also not. :p

    Like I said - it's the Ship of Theseus!
     
  20. yenny

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