Khan #1 Review

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  1. Therin of Andor

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    Spock sensed a shipload of Vulcans dying in TOS and the approach of V'ger in TMP. It ruined his Kolinahr graduation ceremony.

    And this "power" is not really mentioned again, each time, until the next script that requires him to use it.
     
  2. Nob Akimoto

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    As if a million Star Wars memes cried in horror at being dragged into Star Trek...and were silenced.
     
  3. RPJOB

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    I'm not saying he didn't care about Vulcans destruction. It's the only time he loses control is when Kirk's involved, first when Kirk staged his mutiny by illegally boarding the ship with Scotty and the second time when he "died". It's as if the only person that can get a rise out of Spock is Kirk.

    And, if Spock was co compromised by the destruction of Vulcan and the death of his family, why is he even on active duty? He tried to kill Kirk after all. Did nobody mention this to someone at headquarters? Great way to show your loyalty to your friend and comrade, let him work in a high pressure job while he's got serious mental health issues that basically lead him to find a logical way to commit suicide. But at least his friends didn't rat him out to Starfleet Medical.

    It just didn't work for me. Your mileage may vary.
     
  4. JarodRussell

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    And little kids calling him names.

    It's funny that at the end of STD he is just the very same character as in the beginning of ST09.
     
  5. Avro Arrow

    Avro Arrow Commodore Commodore

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    ... says every Star Trek slash ever written. :p

    To be fair, the rules around this seem a little murky. Spock thought he had killed Kirk in Amok Time, and he felt the need to relinquish command and turn himself in on his own volition. Presumably no one would have arrested him or forced him to step down otherwise?

    C'mon, all those other crazy and corrupt captains and admirals don't just happen... something's gotta make them all crack. This is probably just Starfleet's Standard Operating Procedure! :p
     
  6. Nob Akimoto

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    This is why we need counselors.
     
  7. King Daniel Beyond

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    Only in the same way that Picard is the same after "The Inner Light" because he still says "Captain's Log..." every now and then.
     
  8. Therin of Andor

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    As they did in "Yesteryear" (TAS).
     
  9. Kruezerman

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  10. Noddy

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    If VOY "Future's End" & "11:59", and ENT "Carpenter Street" are anything to go by, North America was NOT dominated by Augments in the 1990's.
     
  11. BillJ

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    Doesn't Carpenter Street take place a few years after the wars would've ended?
     
  12. Noddy

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    True, but "Future's End" is in 1996, the same year the conflicts ended, and the USA looks the same as it did in reality. I find it hard to believe that if the nation had been under Augment control for at least three years, things would be normal by then.
     
  13. BillJ

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    I don't think that there's any actual evidence that they controlled the United States. But we do get a nod to the conflict with the DY-100 model on Rain Robinson's desk in Future's End.
     
  14. Noddy

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    The comic shows one Augment poised to assume control of North America at Khan's command.
     
  15. Ovation

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    Remember who's telling the story. Does it seem impossible that Khan/Harrison might be lying, just even a teensy, weensy, bit?
     
  16. Avro Arrow

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    Space Seed specifically established that Khan was the "last of the tyrants to be overthrown". He might have been able to stay in power until 1996, but it's possible that whichever Augment was in power in the USA was overthrown well before Voyager visited Earth in 1996.
     
  17. DEWLine

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    Surprised to see Newfoundland as an Augment facility site.
     
  18. Christopher

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    It's worth pointing out that the 1996 seen in "Future's End" was probably an alternate timeline anyway, since once Voyager restored the timeline, Braxton had never gone back in time at all and thus the 20th-century timeline resulting from Starling getting his timeship was undone, presumably replaced with the original version of history.
     
  19. Mr. Laser Beam

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    ^ Then again, if Braxton never went back, then Voyager never did either, and thus Braxton DID go back...and that way lies madness. :p

    Besides, didn't Janeway think that the Federation's entire technological base owes its existence to Henry Starling's reverse engineering of Braxton's ship?

    Side note: There is a model of the Botany Bay (with its booster rockets) on Rain Robinson's desk in this episode. So the 'alternate timeline' suggestion would not seem to be the case. There never was any proof, or even a suggestion, that the USA was ever involved in the Eugenics Wars in the first place, after all...
     
  20. DEWLine

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    No?

    A war on that scale, it seems unlikely that the USA could avoid involvement.
     

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