Janeway vs. Nero

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  1. King Daniel Beyond

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    What if, instead of appearing 150 years in the past on the Klingon border, Nero's ship emerged from the black hole in the Delta Quadrant, a mere decade or so in the past, right in Voyager's path?


    "This is Captain Kathryn Janeway of the Federation starship Voyager."

    "Hi Kathryn, I'm Nero..."
     
  2. Third Nacelle

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    Is this before or after Scorpion?

    If before Janeway would find some way not only to defeat Nero, but to restore Romulus. If after, it would be a two-part episode where all the senior Voyager staff beams aboard the Narada, steal technology from it, disable the ship, and at the end of the episode find the stolen technology is unusable with their systems.
     
  3. R. Star

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    Seems to me the ship 150 years from the future that tore all Federation ships a new one would actually be rudimentary in Voyager's time, only what... 10 years or so in the past, and should be able to defeat them easily.
     
  4. Melakon

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    What is this, Weird Thread Day? Third Nacelle shuffles crews around between shows, and now you have Janeway meets Nero?

    It depends on at what point Nero appears in Voyager's present. If it's during "Endgame" after Admiral Janeway's modifications are installed, Nero goes poof.

    If Nero shows up during "Year of Hell", Annorax detects an anomaly, traces it to Narada, and Nero goes poof.
     
  5. Bry_Sinclair

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    Seven would use her nanoprobes to infiltrate the computer system, download all the future information that could allow them to find a way home, all whilst Voyager engages Nero's and (despite being a fraction of the size and severely out-gunned) manages to hold their own. Once Seven is done, she downloads a computer virus that causes the ship to destroy itself, leaving Voyager with all the advanced information for them to study and maybe shave a few years off their journey.

    Then Janeway presses the reset button and it is never mentioned again.
     
  6. R. Star

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    But in true Voyager fashion, next episode where that information might prove useful they'll forget they even had it.
     
  7. BillJ

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    Janeway would go out with a giant fork in her chest.
     
  8. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Janeway would win, for gods sake she's fighting a mining vessel from just 10 years in the future not one from over a century in the future when all her weapons would be toys to the other guys, she'd have to be all kinds of incompetent to lose.
     
  9. T J

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    However she would defeat him it would involve large amounts of coffee!
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

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    Janeway would point out that red goop does not increase the mass of Romulus so it makes no sense that it would absorb the planet before people had the chance to evacuate because a black hole with the mass of one planet would absorb the planet very slowly, not affecting the gravity at a fixed radius from the center.
     
  11. Bry_Sinclair

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    Yup. Damn that reset button on Janeway's console!
     
  12. T'Girl

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    Nero was a easily manipulated moron, with a powerful weapon system. Janeway would have baited him into a position where she could have either destroyed him, or better still strip him of his only asset, the Narda.

    Maroon him and his crew somewhere.

    *****

    And if Nero emerged in the delta quad, he never would have captured Spock's ship, and would have never acquired any red matter, so he would only have his ship's original weapons.

    No red matter.

    :)
     
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Nero didn't have a powerful weapon.

    He had an advanced tool.

    Janeway has weapons.

    Just as advanced.

    Many of them.

    Actually...

    Judging from how broken down Nero's ship seemed, Nero's Derrick might have had 4 or 5 decades on Voyager and yet it's still a century ahead of Kirk's Enterprise.
     
  14. BillJ

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    The Narada was five-miles long and armed to the teeth. Voyager would've been no more capable of holding off a surprise attack than the Kelvin was.
     
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    The Narada was a mining vessel on steroids, as I remember from the comic books. It was secretly upgraded with Borg technology found in a derelict cube somewhere at the edge of the Beta Quadrant, in a facility called The Vault. Anyway; since Voyager was able to defend against the Borg thanks to Seven of Nine's expertise with knowning / hacking their systems they'd probably be successful in - if not defeating Nero - making it alive at least.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    It was not armed to the teeth.

    Maybe after wandering around as a pirate for 25 years, the weapons systems were off spec.

    The Narada could turn off 23rd century shields because it's computers were faster and more intuitive, and it probably could just shoot through shields as if they weren't there if there computers were smart enough to figure out the shield harmonics.

    Being 5 miles long didn't mean that the ship was powerful, it meant that the bugger was almost impossible to coverall with their shield, you know except that their engine and feul cells are from the late 24th century... It's a drill for mining a planet from orbit, they probably have to reverse some serious health and safter practices to trick the computer into thinking that it's okay to blow up a planet it should want o repeatyedly penetrat without leaving lasting environmental damage, but year a massive drilling beam, and storage to carry all the ore or what every they're mining unless other ships were supposed to charged with the responsibilities of haulage.

    And even then they still wouldn't have been provided with militry grade shields becuase this ship is a mining vessel used for comerical ventures and were not designed to be taken into combat which means that they didn't have to make it espeically invulnerable at all.

    Is there any evidence that this was a war ship expected to be taken into war and not a civilian utility vehicle in over it's head?
     
  17. King Daniel Beyond

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    If Narada has knockoff Borg technology as per Countdown and is thus leagues ahead of even 24th century Federation ships, Voyager is kinda screwed but has a big help in Seven of Nine's Borg knowledge.

    If Narada really is just a simple mining vessel, and thus technologically on par(-ish) with 24th century Federation technology, it's a different story. Those cluster missiles would still pack an almighty punch, though.
     
  18. topas

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    Only in the Countdown comic books. The Memory-Beta wikia has all the upgrades and enhancements made to the ship covered in the bottom section of this article.

    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Narada
     
  19. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I call bullshit on the ship having Borg upgrades because those comics were awful.

    I'm supposed to believe that Nero took down V'Ger while waiting for Spock to enter the timeline?

    Those comics?

    Cocaine is a powerful drug.
     
  20. King Daniel Beyond

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    Hey, I liked Countdown:p. But the Nero comic, where he meets V'ger, was one of the stupidest things ever.

    EVER.