Janeway: Hero Or Villain?

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Hero Or Villain?

Poll closed Jan 25, 2014.
  1. Hero

    71.1%
  2. Villain

    7.9%
  3. Other. Explain.

    21.1%
  1. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I know canon is a religious word, but can you imagine a Jew saying "Not Canon" to a Christian like how we say the words, so nerdily?

    "Water to wine? Not canon!"

    If the New Testament is novels, then the Book of Mormon is definitely fanfiction.
     
  2. Gov Kodos

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    Janeway and her gals are beyond good and evil.

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5l9uIfPzp4[/yt]
     
  3. Gov Kodos

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    That is one of the funniest things I've read today. Thanks guy. :guffaw:
     
  4. teacake

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    My GOD that was good.
     
  5. Gov Kodos

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    The opening with B'lanna is perfect. I can guess Engineering had a few days like that.
     
  6. Captain Kathryn

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    Even those who dislike and/or tend to hate on Janeway for some decisions she made...I don't think that even most of those people would use such a strong word as 'villain" in all seriousness.
     
  7. Hartzilla2007

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    Well unless one is talking about the versions from the EMH's holonovel and/or the bulls@#t history thing from Living Witness. Becuase Janeway was defiantly a villain in those.
     
  8. Melakon

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    Though Tuvix's real ghost might.
     
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    Other. She was a little bit of both. After all Janeway was the "mommy" to the crew and sometimes the mommy has to be both the hero and the bad guy.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

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    In archetypical 50s language, Janeway wasn't the mother, she was the father.

    Paid the bills, set down the law, and only showed up when a kid needed some good sense beat into him(or her.).

    Chakotay was the mother.
     
  12. R. Star

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    Actually one of the most creepy Janeway moments was when the Doctor found out she was erasing his memory. The look on Picardo's face just captured how violated the character felt.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    I thought the end was morally upside down when it seemed that Janeway was going to spend months by the Doctors side helping him recuperate and rebuild while... A million horrible things happened to the rest of her crew.

    This is the episode after the episode after 30 days. :)

    Maybe Tom would have preferred some mother sympathy of some hand holding rather than the fatherly abuse of being locked in a box for four weeks.
     
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  14. T'Girl

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    I would imagine that more than a few thousand people have read the Book of Mormon.

    Unlike the recent Trek novels.

    :)
     
  15. Anwar

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    So it's okay for Spock to do it to Kirk, but not any other Trek character to do to anyone else?
     
  16. R. Star

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    Please tell me when I said that.
     
  17. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You think Spock "improved" the Captain whenever he Mindmelded with Jim Kirk?

    Was it autonomically, subconsciously or wittingly?
     
  18. Melakon

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    I first misread that as "anatomically".

    Excuse me while I go use some brain bleach.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    I dare you to google Spock + Kirk + Naked + diaper.
     
  20. teacake

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    I google that all the time . But without the diaper .
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