James T. Kirk in 24th century novels

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by mendelin, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2005
    Location:
    On the USS Sovereign
    I am not eager to see any references to Sybok in future novels. Now if Spock and Saavik had children...
     
  2. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    They've got about two years to get busy, before Spock has his appointment with a magic black hole. :)

    I'm hoping we will get a final Spock novel detailing the Hobus event, and heavily featuring Saavik. We'll have to wait and see...
     
  3. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Why can he have children with Saavik, but can't have a half brother?
     
  4. KRAD

    KRAD Keith R.A. DeCandido Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 1999
    Location:
    New York City
    As Greg said, the main reason for avoiding mentions of Sybok was general distaste for The Final Frontier, not because Roddenberry declared it apocryphal. Hell, Roddenberry spent half of 1982 going to cons urging fans not to support The Wrath of Khan, saying it wasn't really Star Trek. See how well that worked.....

    I'll actually quote Ronald D. Moore, when discussing the writing of the TNG episode "The Nth Degree." The earlier drafts had the Cytherian (the big giant head who made Barclay a sooooper genius in the episode) be much more malevolent, but they realized that made the whole thing too similar to The Final Frontier, and as Moore said, “The absolute last thing that we wanted to remind anyone of was Star Trek V.”
     
  5. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Location:
    Oxford, PA
    He has a half-brother. We just don't speak of him. :)
     
  6. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    There's also a subplot about he origins of Nimbus III, aka The Planet of Galactic Peace, running through the last few Vanguard books.
     
  7. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    I'm not sure they were entirely successful, then, since I recall a fair amount of speculation about "God" being a Cytherian (presumably a criminally insane one). :)
     
  8. Relayer1

    Relayer1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Location:
    The Black Country, England
    Like it or not, the events of V are part of the canon.

    As such, and with Spock's coming exit, now (real world) would seem a good time to investigate his family background...
     
  9. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2005
    Location:
    On the USS Sovereign
    Now sounds like a good time to plot out that story with flashbacks of his life.
     
  10. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Location:
    Yorkshire, UK
    We had something similar with Star Trek: Spock Reflections.
     
  11. Relayer1

    Relayer1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Location:
    The Black Country, England
    Exactly.

    Especially if Spock and Saavik have a child - Sybok's daughter would be their child's only Vulcan relative wouldn't she ?
     
  12. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    Do we know for a fact that Sarek was an only child? A theoretical child of Spock and Saavik could always have some granduncles/aunts and any whatever you would call their kids out there.
     
  13. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    I don't know about you, but I've been itching to find out what became of the Morg and Eymorg in the 24th century.
     
  14. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Canon is silent on the question as far as I know, but J.M. Dillard's novel Demons gave Sarek a younger brother, Silek.
     
  15. Nob Akimoto

    Nob Akimoto Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 22, 2001
    Location:
    The People's Republic of Austin
    I can just see it now...NuTrek3 with Idris Elba as Sybok.
     
  16. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    "Today I am cancelling your pain!"
     
  17. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 10, 2005
    Location:
    The visitor's bullpen
    They repurposed the underground computer to produce a fantasy-style roleplaying game. Or in other words, a MMP-MORG.

    They also opened a line of grocery stores selling MORG-anic health food.

    However the "Brain and brain?" lady escaped and began crashing sporting events, where she was known as MORG-anna.
     
  18. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Location:
    #istandwithcbs
    That was an interesting idea - that "cousin Silek" from "Yesteryear" was a real person who looked just like adult Spock. I read it with an older Nimoy in mind.
     
  19. E-DUB

    E-DUB Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2011
    We also don't know that Amanda was an only child. Spock could have human cousins.
     
  20. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    No, the cousin Spock impersonated in "Yesteryear" was named Selek, not Silek. After all, Sarek's brother would be Spock's uncle, of course, not his cousin. And Spock-as-Selek identifies himself as a cousin to Sarek as well as to Spock -- not to mention posing as a cousin sufficiently distant that Sarek had never met him before.