is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

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  1. tmosler

    tmosler Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I just found out that there are two amazing star trek games that act just like 2 extra seasons of the original series. I was just wondering if these are cannon.
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    No. They aren't canon.
     
  3. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    Anytime you're unsure if something is part of Star Trek canon, the answer is always no. Similarly, if you're unsure whether your religion is actually a cult, the answer is yes.
     
  4. Shawnster

    Shawnster Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    25th Anniversary is canon on odd-number days, Judgement Rights on even-numbered days.
     
  5. Lance

    Lance Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They're both great games, and both are very authentic to the spirit of TOS. :techman: But no, they aren't canon. None of the Star Trek video games are.
     
  6. King Daniel Beyond

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    Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

    But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
     
  7. Greg Cox

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    Amen!
     
  8. Saturn0660

    Saturn0660 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    All tech manuals? I always thought the TNG and the DS9 tech book were in fact cannon.
     
  9. BillJ

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    Nothing is canon outside of live-action episodes and movies. :techman:
     
  10. Lance

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    There's a disclaimer in the front of the TNG tech manual stating outright that it has no pretensions about being 'canon' (besides, several things mentioned therein, such as all the talk about the Starfleet's next big new starship design, were explicitly denied by future screen material).

    Much to his credit, Okuda's books over the years (the chronology too) were always quite humble in saying, "We do not own the canon". Even though, as a member of production staff, he probably could have imposed his own interpretation as being the 'real' one if he wanted to... he never actually did, except in those cases where it came up naturally on-screen and he was able to sneak some of his explanations into the canon. On those occasions it became legitimate, but unless that happened then... nope, nothing in the tech manuals is strictly canon, unless the reader wants to interpret it as such.
     
  11. LOKAI of CHERON

    LOKAI of CHERON Commodore Commodore

    There are many posters on this board who regularly comment on this issue - how even "official" canon is often ignored or modified in some way. But to trot out the "party line" - if doesn't happen on screen in a completed episode or film, it isn't canon.

    Oh, one other thing, let's just ignore TAS in reference to the above if that's OK! :lol:
     
  12. Greg Cox

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    And, please, as a public-service reminder to all concerned: the word is "canon," not "cannon."

    Sorry to be a spelling freak, but, honestly, it's like like nails on a blackboard . . . like "Kahn" instead of "Khan"! :)
     
  13. King Daniel Beyond

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    Is Wrath of Kahn cannon?:D
     
  14. DonIago

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    It's a photonic canon!
     
  15. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

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    Okay, that's just mean . . . :)
     
  16. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    Only if its about Madeline firing a piece of artillery.
     
  17. M'Sharak

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  19. Borjis

    Borjis Commodore Commodore

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    Canon, Shmanon.

    None of it is real, yet exists.
     
  20. Dukhat

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    While Berman-era Trek definitely considered only the films and television shows canon, I should point out that "canon" is whatever the person currently in charge of the franchise says it is. If CBS were to put out a press release stating that, say, ENT was no longer canon, then it's no longer canon. If they say that the novels are now canon, then they are.

    Of course it's highly unlikely that will happen.