"Iron Man 3" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Dream, Apr 23, 2013.

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  1. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The Extremis soldiers weren't using just their enhanced strength on the Armors, they were also using their heat generation powers too. That was what was carving the suits more than anything else. We never saw Tony facing off with anyone that could generate melting heat before. Heck, one major weakness of the armor in the first film was dealing with extreme cold.
     
  2. Corran Horn

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    Yeah, and it was enough to force Rhodey out. Good point.
     
  3. Nick Ryder

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    Plus they were being flown on remote control without an actual human pilot inside, so the suits weren't really being flown with self preservation in mind. They were drone tanks for all intents and purposes. Target, fire and attack were their primary mission goals, avoiding being hit wasn't really a huge factor.

    Plus, the Marks 3-7 were about as strong as these other suits really, they took a lot of damage and the only thing that kept them flying (besides plot) was that Tony was inside doing what he could to keep them going, diverting power, boosting shields or whatever and other stuff, why would he say things like that if JARVIS could do it all automatically, JARVIS can't.

    Plus it was clear that the heat they generated was extremely extremely hot and more than enough to cut through an empty suit or even a worn suit without much effort. Hot knife through butter.

    Although one thing that I am rather... well curious about... if all or most of his other suits could be deployed and worn by them simply opening around him, without needing the whole process we saw in the first 3 Iron Man appearances, what was the real point of the Mark 42? Sure each piece could be controlled and deployed with gestures and thought and could be completely independent, but we saw other suits doing similar things. Plus they just opened up around him like his Avengers suit and later Rhodey's suit and all the others.

    I mean the 42 I suppose was just yet another prototype he was playing with, but even so didn't really seem super necessary once he figured out some of the key things that made his other suits more of a chore to wear.

    No longer needing to use his own arc reactor for power - they all presumably had their own now. They were able to be worn without the helper arms. And they could now be entirely piloted by JARVIS so if he needed another suit, he just had to call for it.

    I still think he had more than one armory than the wine cellar suits we saw. I'll bet there's another armory in NYC - even if it's only variations of the Mark 7/8.
     
  4. Set Harth

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    What isn't clear is why the Extremis agents' own body parts aren't similarly destroyed by all that heat.

    Movie "logic", I guess... :shrug:
     
  5. Dream

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    It's comic book logic. They needed villains to be a huge threat to Iron Man. They actually made them less powerful than their comic book versions.

    These were the Extremis powers from the comics:

    http://marvel.wikia.com/Extremis_virus
     
  6. Corran Horn

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    Watched it again last night and during the 'march of the JARVIS suits' two Extremis peeps clearly rip the head off one of the suits w/o any heat powers. Meshes with the above...
     
  7. LaxScrutiny

    LaxScrutiny Commodore Commodore

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    Well, apparently Extremis can make the host body immune to heat. By... umm... er.... insulation? What insulation? Transfering the heat? Where? Regeneration? With what source of matter?

    It's just magic.

    I don't mind suspending my disbelief, but that doesn't extend to making something out of nothing with an unlimited energy source powered by fantasy.
     
  8. Captaindemotion

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    I just assumed it altered the composition of the body's DNA or whatever so as to make it a form of energy. Or magic, as you put it!
     
  9. LaxScrutiny

    LaxScrutiny Commodore Commodore

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    Sure, but energy expended has to come from somewhere.
     
  10. Captaindemotion

    Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^ Um - the Force?
     
  11. Mister Fandango

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    Clearly you're not familiar with comic book physics.
     
  12. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Same place Cyclops gets the power for those Optic Blasts, and Wolverine gets the power to regenerate without eating a lot or whatever.
     
  13. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Does anyone know about an Iron Man trilogy box for blu ray? Or a complete Avenger films box? I don't have any of the films and it would be neat to get them all at once.
     
  14. Dream

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    No Iron Man trilogy set has been released. Kind of surrpised they didn't do one.

    There is an Avengers Bluray set, but it only contains the movies and no extras. It has Iron Man all the way to the Avengers.
     
  15. Set Harth

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    Maybe they'll put out an Iron Man trilogy set for the holiday season?
     
  16. Captaindemotion

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    Yeah, they'll wait until people have stopped buying the IM3 disk and then they'll go for the double-dip.
     
  17. Corran Horn

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    And then the MCU Phase 2 boxed/cased/whatever set.
     
  18. Captain Craig

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    No Iron Man trilogy box yet that I've seen/heard.
    However, there is the Marvel Cinematic Phase One Collectors Set. In a handy briefcase containing the Tesseract and SHIELD Files on each Avenger.

    I own it, couldn't pass it up.
     
  19. Argus Skyhawk

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    I saw it last night and enjoyed it quite a bit. I have to complain, however, that the story's resolution centered around Stark destroying all the Iron Man suits, presumably retiring his days as a super hero.

    Except the credits end with the words "Tony Stark will return." Besides, I doubt they are planning to make Avengers 2 without Iron Man. You know, when a movie ends with a hero resigning, and the movie makes an unexpected amount of cash, causing the studio to say "Hey, let's bring him out of retirement so we can make some MORE money," I find that annoyingly contrived. So for them to retire the character knowing full well they will soon un-retire him and thus cheapen the ending of the previous film... I don't like it.

    Besides, comic book characters aren't supposed to retire after just three or four adventures. They are supposed keep saving the world over and over indefinitely. (I'm not saying the movie series should continue indefinitely)

    But I still like the movie a lot.
     
  20. Anwar

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    It wasn't so much a sign of him retiring. He built all those suits partly as a way of him escaping his leftover trauma from New York, so him destroying them was the final step in him overcoming the trauma and coming to terms with it and himself.

    It's one of those things that can be seen as an ending, but also a new beginning.
     

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