Iron Man 3 Discussion/Photos/ETC.

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  1. captcalhoun

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    short version (non-spoilery) they're a terrorist group in the comics, connected to a certain organisation in a certain other character's movie.
     
  2. Kemaiku

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    One thing I liked about IM2 was when he walked in and JARVIS did his scan of them, the Mark 3 had "Battle damage" listed by the display.
     
  3. Mark_Nguyen

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    It's the little things, no? :)

    I would think that Tony in general wouldn't spend THAT much time in creating fully functioning versions of the earlier armor that would otherwise have been destroyed. Thus, the Mark I and II on that wall would be more cosmetic an not functioning armor, while III onwards would be the genuine articles repaired or otherwise restored to the pristine look, even if the insides are still damaged.

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  4. Trekker4747

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    It's interesting to me how quickly these things are damaged. I know it's some sort of alloy of titanium and gold (or whatever he says at the end of Iron Man 1 in response to being called Iron Man.) But, sheesh. It's a wonder he doesn't have a shit-load more of these things one encounter with Thor nearly destroyed the one he had and after he fixed the Helicopter engine it was barely operable. And then after the (granted lengthy and brutal) encounter at the end of Avengers his latest Armor is practically destroyed with chunks of it either floating in space several thousand light years away or in another dimension.
     
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    Gold-Titanium isn't anywhere near as strong as the films make it out to be. If that's all the suits where made of, they'd shatter on some of the impacts he takes, bullets would do more damage than we've seen and he'd certainly never survive more than one outing in full combat.

    So I assume there are other metals and the Ag/Ti alloy is the base metal that makes up 60% or more.

    But based on the materials we know he uses, the suits are more ablative in nature, designed to use many plates that spread out damage and are replaced when needed.

    The interior endoskeletal frames probably last much longer and take less damage.
     
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    I've honestly no idea what he says the alloy is he uses, I pretty sure one of them was titanium, but the other metal(s) I'm less clear about. It just seems the suits are pretty easily damaged.
     
  7. Kemaiku

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    Gold-Titanium, he does say it out loud and the alloy exists. I'm just saying they've gone down the usual route of saying the name of a real metal, then making it do something it can't do in real life anyway.

    The same with the Avengers, Iridium exists in proper ingots in various locations all over the Earth. It's incredibly rare, but when it is found it's nearly always immediately refined to the base metal. There was no need to go to Germany except to do the Hitler jokes, and what the hell that "rock" was supposed to be I don't know.

    But yeah, true to old school "suits of armour" his is designed with the idea of multiple intertlocking parts, used ablatively, when one piece is damaged it's replaced. He had regular damage in mind when he designed them.
     
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    Yeah, it seems the MCU is being a bit... "strict" to trying stay somewhat realistic in the use of metals. Hell, I'm surprised Cap's shield was made out of vibranium.
     
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    This is Marvel. Why they don't just make everything out of adamantium is beyond me.
     
  10. Skywalker

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    Adamantium (on film) belongs to Fox, since they own the rights to the X-Men universe. In the comics, Cap's shield is actually a combination of vibranium and adamantium. But since Disney/Marvel can't use adamantium, in the MCU it's pure vibranium.
     
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    I thought the shield was an alloy of vibranium and steel (in the comics as well as the movies.) And is the deal between Marvel and Sony/Fox that detailed that adamantium is securely tied to X-Men? Seems like that metal would be "public domain" as far as the various Marvel movie characters are concerned, don't see why it'd only be latched to X-Men and thus only Fox.(?)
     
  12. Skywalker

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    The shield has been described as a combination of adamantium and vibranium in the comics, IIRC. And perhaps Fox don't own the rights to adamantium, since it first appeared in an Avengers comic and features in various facets of the Marvel universe. Maybe Disney/Marvel just avoid mentioning it to prevent any potential lawsuits, I don't know.
     
  13. Turtletrekker

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    But wasn't vibranium also mentioned on-screen in X-Men Origins: Wolverine?
     
  14. Skywalker

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    No idea. And I'm sure as hell not going to go back and watch it again to find out. :p
     
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    He probably took off the mark 3 armor right after fighting iron monger. It's still battle damaged but can probably be used
     
  16. captcalhoun

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    pretty sure they didn't mention vibranium in Wolverine, because the big deal was all about adamantium.
     
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    Vibranium was never mentioned in "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" for the reasons mentioned above.

    This is what the wikipedia entry for Vibrainium says about it for it's appearance in "Iron Man 2".

    "In the feature film Iron Man 2, Tony Stark synthesizes a new element to take the place of the palladium that powers his armor. Although unnamed in the film itself, the movie's novelization identifies the element as vibranium, so named by Stark because it shares characteristics with uranium and has similar transgenic properties to another fictional element named "vibernum". Its molecular structure is that of a triangular buckyball.[19] During the movie, it is first shown using a polygon mesh of squares and then with a mesh that uses more than the 110 points (the number of points in a 'triangular buckyball')"


    It also goes on to say that the element was first named in "Captain America: The First Avenger".
     
  18. Turtletrekker

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    Ha! I actually just took one for the team and popped in XMO:W and I was indeed mistaken. For whatever reason, I thought that he asteroid fragment recovered early on was IDd as vibranium, but it was not.

    Something else I was once sure that I saw in an X-movie that wasn't there was the name "STARK INDUSTRIES" on Magneto's cell. Swore up and down that I saw it. Huh. Musta been the vodka.
     
  19. Trekker4747

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    No way the element Tony makes in Iron Man 2 is vibranium considering vibranium at that point is a known element! Hell it's a known element by his own father who says that the element needed to be synthesized to make the arc reactor w really work can't be created using the 1960s technology.

    The element Tony makes in IM2 is never named but it was a new creation. (Starkinium?)
     
  20. Skywalker

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    Yeah, the element Tony synthesized in IM2 wasn't vibranium. The Avengers tie-in prequel comic Fury's Big Week briefly mentions the element. They said that Stark was trying to get a patent for the name "badassium," but was running into some bureaucratic issues. :lol: