Instead of DQ, should Voyager have been in another galaxy?

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  1. Enterprise1701

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    ^Retweet. It's grounded in both real-life science and realism in fiction.

    Unless the show creators come up with the most ridiculous macguffin ever.
     
  2. JarodRussell

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    Wouldn't that have been like, you know, the challenge?
     
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  3. Anwar

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    Picard and Kirk got stuck in other Galaxies or outside the Galaxy, no one thought it was strange they got back.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Kirk got stuck in the revovling door in the pilot... LIKE WINNIE THE POOH!

    Meanwhile, in the 3rd season's is There Truth in Beauty, they literrally became horribly lost after they got 12 feet out pas the great barrier... Was there a Medusan on Janeway's crew?
     
  5. King Daniel Beyond

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    Lost in another galaxy or universe would have made the situation seem more helpless, and alleviated the speed/time/distance issues between Voyager and the other series' a little bit. I say it would have been a nice idea.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    A million years to get home?

    #### that.

    They would have planted a flag on the first uninhabited world.
     
  7. Anwar

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    Like Kirk and Picard did?
     
  8. Nebusj

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    Nah. Like everyone who's read Blish knows, in interstellar space there's nothing of interest except planets full of Earth refugee/colonists and the only thing in another galaxy is a weird, vaguely defined space-time anomaly of antimatter/antitime that's destroying and creating the universe, and those kinds of settings are just not Voyager's core competencies.
     
  9. Drone

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    New, maybe not. But it's one thing to be outside the galaxy for a cup of coffee, or what, a few days in By Any Other Name? Then turn around and pretty much get back on very familiar ground speedily through your own or other's (Kelvans) devices.

    Quite another to lay out an all encompassing framework that, with any degree of plausibility, would need to be presented pretty much as terra incognita.
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Kirk went native in The Paradise Syndrome, and made a home for himself in the Nexus for 70 years playing house with Antonia.

    Meanwhile Picard eventually gave up in Inner Light and made a family. Lots of family.

    :)

    But would they have still bent over, if they still had had their star ships?
     
  11. teacake

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    No. Starships trump wives.

    Now what is our primitive equivalent hmm.. the pub?
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Norm picked Cheers over Vera every day of the 80s and a sniff of the 90s.
     
  13. Tiberius

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    Yes, send Voyager to another galaxy. And then Seasons 4-275 would consist entirely of episodes...

    Captain's Log, Stardate 52631.9. We're continuing our crossing of the interstellar void. It's so bloody boring!
     
  14. teacake

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    It would become a prison ship, prisoners of the void. Soon it would all degenerate into fighting and sexual trysts in alarming places and terrible terrible food.

    Wait, I think we have this show already..
     
  15. Anwar

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    The whole "Lost Ship" thing is only good as a starter plot anyways, after a season or so you need something else to drive the plot.
     
  16. teacake

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    Sexual Tension!!!!!!!!
     
  17. Anwar

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    Nowadays, TV shows that run on Unresolved Sexual Tension are expected to eventually put the leads together. They're repeatedly proven that "Moonlighting Syndrome" can be broken so now THAT'S bust as well.

    Voyager had a good idea for a series plot (put together an alliance to fight off the 8472 invasion) but network intervention kept them from doing anything with it.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    Smart people in olden days learnt their lesson with Who's the Boss?.

    (Or Moonlighting.)

    Once you put the Spencer together with the Tracy, everything interesting deflates.

    (Melissa and Joey got together recently. It's horrible, they fight less and keep talking about their active sex life. Euuurgh.)
     
  19. teacake

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    So you have two seasons of sexual tension, half a season of consummated romance and then you either break them up or kill one of them.
     
  20. Anwar

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    "Mad About You" had the two leads be together from the start, no one cared.

    "The Nanny" put the leads together, it didn't affect quality one bit.

    DS9 had Kira and Odo get together, it didn't hurt them at all.

    NewsRadio had their leads get together early on, stayed good for years.

    The main problem with the shows that became less interesting once the leads got together was that the writers never intended them to go together in the first place (just have UST) and had no idea how to get them to work as a couple.

    Writers who already planned to get them together know what they're doing.