Improve the Third Season

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  1. AtoZ

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    The 3rd season wasn't nearly as bad as some have made out. To me it easily - EASILY - beats out some of the other spin of series, let alone the vast majority of whats on TV today.

    That all aside, my "improvements" may be akin to splitting hairs:

    - have Shatner return to his shorter, better kept season one haircut

    - that they never would have made Plato's Stepchildren

    - that the money saved from not having made Plato's Stepchildren could have been used to create a few key, truly Romulan ship interior sets for The Enterprise Incident

    - that they would have replaced The Mark of Gideon with a follow-up to The Enterprise Incident, this time reusing those newly made Romulan ship interior sets and giving us something more interesting AND plausible

    - keep Scotty fully in character for The Lights of Zetar, yet tweak the story so that it has both depth and character development

    - have a more realistic and better time lead-in to McCoy's health resolution on For the World is Hollow....and maybe make his separation from his new wife (a Rocket Lady) a little more realistic

    - find a way to keep Eddie Paskey on the show, maybe kill him off in Wink of an Eye instead of/or as Compton, and bring him back again a week or two later. :techman:
     
  2. Harvey

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    I thought Paskey retired from the show because of health problems?

    Link.
     
  3. Ssosmcin

    Ssosmcin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I agree, I would have loved to have read his detailed insight on doin gthe series. Would have also loved to have met the man. By all accounts, whatever one thought of him on the job, he was a hell of a nice guy.
     
  4. Ssosmcin

    Ssosmcin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But what would have relpaced the episode they never made? Now they'd be one short. They had an episode commitment to keep and something has to fill the whole in the schedule.
     
  5. Warped9

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    From my revisit:

     
  6. gottacook

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    But 1968 was not 1966. The actors in virtually any TV series that encompassed both years would have longer hair in 1968. Neither Shatner nor the behind-the-scenes staff would have seen anything wrong with Kirk having longer hair too; note also that the one "futuristic" element of the men's hairstyles on the show (the pointed sideburns) also became longer and bushier in the third season. At least Spock's hair wasn't longer...
     
  7. Anji

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    The only thing that really bugs me about the Freiberger years is there was too much damn sex. Everybody was kissing everybody else! It was the same thing he did to Space:1999 which would've been a lot better if the women were actual characters and not somebody's girlfriend.

    "Turnabout Intruder" did not portray women in an accurate light (to put it kindly) and I almost gave up on Star Trek after watching that one.
     
  8. AtoZ

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    Of course, you are right, but I simply had to post it. It was a happier Star Trek for me seeing Eddie lurking about in the background.
     
  9. AtoZ

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    No doubt they would have been one short, and for that alone my vision comes off as imperfect, but where that episode is concerned.....I always feel like I need to apologize for it.
     
  10. AtoZ

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    Of course, you are correct.

    Hey, the glass is of course half full. At least he didn't do a "Robert Reed". :techman:
     
  11. AtoZ

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    Here's one I forgot.

    They should have had at least a couple of 3rd season episodes where Kirk wore his green command tunic. I loved the look of that thing. It stood out. It was all but a memory during season 3.
     
  12. T'Girl

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    Star Trek has certainly presented enough males with psychological problems, women aren't free of suffering from such affections.

    How did Janice not "portray women in an accurate light?"

    :)
     
  13. Foxhot

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    In the 60s, women who wanted to be men----literally----was on the verge of medical possibility, but it was culturally unthinkable. There was no Chaz Bono. Chastity was a newborn.

    The writers put Janice Lester's ambitions at such an intense level, she was willing to give up her identity and live as a man.
    All due to Starfleet's un=PC ''No female Captains'' rule. In many ways we are more open minded than TREK'S future gender attitudes.

    Spock and Kirk comment that her hatred of her own womanhood misses the point, doesn't it?
     
  14. 7thsealord

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    We only have Janice Lester's own assertion that gender bias kept her from starship command.

    This from someone who had already caused the deaths of several people and tried to kill several more. Frankly, I think she was rejected mainly because people at Star Fleet saw that she was crazier than a s###house rat.
     
  15. Harvey

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    Well, there's Lester's dialogue, plus the reality that we never saw a woman in command of a starship (or, after "The Cage," even close to commanding one).
     
  16. 7thsealord

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    How many other (UFP) starship commanders, past and present, did we actually see in the course of TOS?

    Pike, Decker, Wesley, Tracy, Stone. A few other "maybes".

    There were references to "Captain Harris" of USS Excalibur, and to the Captain (unnamed) of USS Intrepid, but no clues as to gender.

    I totally agree that there was a bias against showing women in command during TOS's run. Trekverse-wise, the fact that we never see them does not prove their non-existance. There are several ethnic groups (and alien races) that we never saw (or heard of) as being TOS starship captains either, but I presume that they existed.
     
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  17. SchwEnt

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    ^^^ Right on. About the lack of female captains--something about absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Or something like that.
     
  18. Harvey

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    If you choose to ignore Lester's dialogue, it's true that there isn't any conclusive evidence that women did not command starships in the "world" of Star Trek. All we can say is that on the television show, Star Trek, women were not allowed to be in command.
     
  19. T'Girl

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    But the absence of evidence is the absence of proof.

    In Enterprise, there was a Captain Hernadez. But there was a century of separation between that and Turnabout. There was a Female Captain in The Voyager Home (forget her name), but there was a good dozen years separating that and Turnabout. The 1960's writer (writers) of Turnabout could have imagined a future with no female Human Starship Captains because there were no female naval ship's Captains in that present, certainly none in the US Navy. We believe there will be Female Captains because we have them in our society today.

    Even today, a women in command of a US Warship is rare.

    But what we have are two groups projecting their current societies into the future. In the time period of Turnabout, Human society could have been in a time period where there were in fact no females in Starship commands. It might have been that way for decades. Women could perhaps have obtain the rank of Captain, but only through non-"fleet" commands.

    Societies change, it would be silly to assume that what we have today will never alter from it's "current" form.

    :)
     
  20. plynch

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    More money, better timeslot, GR more hands on, better story editing, more locations. But keep the more quirky ones and keep the elimination of humor eps. Overall I'm fine with S3.
     

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