Imagine the TOS Starfleet

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  1. Dukhat

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    Spock is McCoy's superior officer. Spock doesn't need to motivate McCoy to do anything, he can order him to if he wants. And it would be much more in Spock's character to correct McCoy's mistake no matter what...but he doesn't.
     
  2. Warped9

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    The whole subtext of the show emphasized the idea that the Enterprise and her sisterships were the biggest and best the Federation had launched. The only time I ever saw that questioned was years after the fact when FJ's technical maual came out and the dreadnaught was a proposed idea. But that's not onscreen so it doesn't really count. And since then there's been a lot of retconning going on.

    The JJ films have tended to reinforce the idea that there wasn't anything really special about the Enterprise and her like, but then again that's a production that has no bearing whatsoever on what was intended in TOS made decades before.
     
  3. BillJ

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    I definitely missed this part in the Abramsverse films. The crew aren't as attached to the Enterprise yet, but the ship is only a year old.

    Plus, she was called the newest flagship at the beginning of the first film. I'd call that special.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

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    Yep it's supposed to be the most advanced and newest ship in the fleet.
     
  5. BillJ

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    Well... officially. :lol:
     
  6. Nerys Myk

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    RoboBanzai has a secret.
     
  7. Robert Comsol

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    He wasn't science officer? Like it or not but the file is there and seems to indicate a desire to mention race other than human (wait a minute, I should know since I undersigned he damn thing :lol:).

    Same here. The point was to reveal possible tensions between Earth and Vulcan prior to TOS as a source for anti-Vulcan resentiments.

    Bob
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Not sure if Spock is called a Science Officer in the Cage.

    As I said the phasing is just too awkward to take seriously. It's like someone lifted it from the show's production outline rather than from a Starfleet report.
    Then it's not an example of anti-Vulcan sentiment in TOS. It's speculation with little to support it.
     
  9. publiusr

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    A mind altering parasite that lead to a brief Earth Vulcan war, and resoled through a humorous quirk, just might be the source of McCoy's "No wonder they were conquered quote."
     
  10. Dukhat

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    I think not.
     
  11. Robert Comsol

    Robert Comsol Commodore Commodore

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    I'm not sure either but that looks like the only excuse why it's not the XO ("Number One") concurring with Captain Pike and tells me the "author" of the file text was aware of the problem (so more thought went into the text than assumed).

    Would have been a great opportunity to learn the character's name. Though I think it might have read "Barrett". ;)

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  12. The Old Mixer

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    I'll give them a pass on that detail. They put Spock's name on the report as a blatant hook for the viewer.
     

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