IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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  1. Danlav05

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    Another reason to end is : 'the brand' For the last seven years the JJVerse has been the primary output of Star Trek, the one sold to the masses.


    We're getting a new series in January so maybe we're getting something connected to that? Or something prime timeline?
     
  2. Nyotarules

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    So the script should have said 'Jim you've shrunk!' lol
     
  3. indianatrekker26

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    that's exactly what im hoping for. If the novels can keep charging forward in the Prime universe, why can't the comics?
     
  4. Nightowl1701

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    JD makes a great point of IDW cancelling series only to continue them as miniseries. Seems to make it easier to bundle them into TPBs. Manifest Destiny could be their first go at it with the Abrams crew.

    I gotta say, I'm loving the hell out of Shasteen's cover for #59 - not only a great dead-on portrait of the Original Gang, but a very nice TOS/TMP hybrid Enterprise. I'd have been perfectly fine with that having been the Abramsprise instead...
     
  5. Pauln6

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    The mini series tend to take more time telling their stories so while I'm sorry to see the run coming to an end, if it leads to fewer higher quality stories then that's not so bad. I do feel that the ongoing comic has barely scratched the surface of these characters. They could have done a lot more with fewer stories told over more issues.

    A TOS-TMP hybrid would have been very acceptable to me too.
     
  6. TheAlmanac

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    That would be somewhat fitting, as I believe the DC runs of TOS (Volume 2) and TNG also ended with Issue #60.
     
  7. Daddy Todd

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    Not exactly. Gold Key did 61 issues, but four were reprints, so I count that as 57.

    DC I did 56 issues, plus three annuals and two movie adaptations, which makes it 61-ish issues

    DC II (TOS) and TNG were each 80 issues, plus 6 annuals, plus several specials and 3 or 4 4-issue miniseries. Plus 3 movie adaptations. Maybe around a hundred issues each

    So, 60 issues is a respectable run, but far from star trek's longest ever. Heck, Malibu managed to crank out 64 issues of various DS9 series, miniseries, annuals and specials between mid 1993 and the end of 1995. That's some kind of record.
     
  8. Christopher

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    Both ended with issue #80, actually. But Gold Key's run ended with issue #61, and DC TOS Vol. 1 with issue #56. That would make ST Ongoing the fourth-longest continuously numbered run of regular issues for any single Trek comic series. (EDIT: Or third-longest if you discount the Gold Key reprints Daddy Todd mentioned.) The only other one to make it past 20 sequentially numbered regular issues (as opposed to miniseries, one-shots, annuals, etc.) was Malibu's DS9, which ended at #32.
     
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  9. The Wormhole

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    I'm actually wondering if the upcoming crossover is going to try and explain this by suggesting Spock Prime just recognized them because he remembered meeting the younger better looking alternate crew years earlier.
     
  10. JD

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    That would make sense. I was a little surprised they were doing it as a separate miniseries rather than just an arc in the ongoing, but if it's the first of multiple miniseries that could explain it.
     
  11. Avro Arrow

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    Well, that's kinda disappointing. But I guess if they end up just having them as a bunch of independent mini-series, instead of an "ongoing" title, then that's OK too. That's where we were before they decided to make this one ongoing, anyway.

    Maybe if it's all miniseries, we can go back to getting occasional primeverse stories (that aren't photomanip or crossovers with other random properties) too...
     
  12. LtChange

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    Maybe I'm reading too much into this but the fact is as follows: the July issue will be the last (#60) in the same month as the movie comes out. Why do I have a distinct feeling that this is a request by Paramount? Why do I have the feeling that the events of the movie will take us into another direction (maybe Enterprise B or something with a shift in the crew, some leaving some maybe dying) that makes to end the title and than we will get a new title somewhere after the movie is released, maybe they will keep it a secret
     
  13. TheAlmanac

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    That's what I get for throwing something out there when I'm not in a position to look it up myself. :lol: At least my memory of it being a round number was accurate...

    FWIW, I was only counting numbered issues, not annuals or miniseries.
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    And that's where you're wrong. July is the release of issue 59, issue 60, the final one is released in August. But otherwise, you're basically right, this could be because Beyond is changing the status quo in a significant way.
     
  15. Danlav05

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    Oh so Altered Encounters is the last story, the Series Finale is August, hadn't worked that out! So that leaves September free for something else??
     
  16. Malaika

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    I think they probably want to change the ongoing format to a miniseries one especially if it's uncertain we get more movies after the third. I doubt it's because star trek beyond changed the status quo or kills characters.
    From what I noticed, nutrek miniseries are working better so it makes sense IDW chose the most convenient route. It also gives to Mike Johnson&co more freedom if they can focus on miniseries (and we could have more authors join in and make their own series too)

    with Orci out of the picture we already lost the 'semi-canon' quality of the ongoing series anyway.
     
  17. Dales

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    After what happened to star wars comics and novels I never really took the ongoing trek comics as full canon because this Hollywood studios are just too big and have too much money to line their films to what goes on in the comics.

    the part mini series is a good idea but it is easy to get lost with so many stories unlike an ongoing series that is numbered.
     
  18. Christopher

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    Tie-ins are usually not any kind of canon, "full" or otherwise. Unless they're being written or edited by the actual creators of the show, then they aren't going to be canonical no matter how many press releases they issue claiming to be. The whole time that the Star Wars tie-in people were claiming all that stuff about "canon levels" and whatnot, George Lucas was saying that he considered them to be a separate thing from what he was doing, which means they were not canonical, period.
     
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  19. Pauln6

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    Te first issue of Manifest Destiny was quite good. If limited series stories is the way forward, this is a pretty good start.
     
  20. Markonian

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    Do I get that right from Memory Beta - the Starfleet Academy comics introduced a brand-new NX-class starship? So cool!