IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by serenitytrek1, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Keeper

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    No! No different. Only different in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned.[/Yoda] ;)

    If a reboot of that era had all the characters same as before then there'd be no reason to reboot them, right? That it would be different is why story potential exists.
     
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  2. Markonian

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    Thanks for the additional background. As I said - the Terrans didn't succeed in making the Betazoids extinct.

    Hoshi Sato II was known as the Butcher of Andor. That's where I got the idea of reducing the Andorian population without killing them off, from. The Alliance campaign you brought up also serves to underline the original point.

    Namely, that Deanna and Shar existed despite overwhelming odds to the contrary (= propability to be born despite near-genocide among one's ancestors). Which is the example to serve another point: regardless of events, the existence of characters depends on the creative decisions of the writers/authors because it's all fictional. :vulcan:
     
  3. Christopher

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    Although I'm no fan of the "infinite universes" model, one could legitimately argue that even in a large but finite array of universes, there'd be a nonzero chance of finding two in which the same individuals existed. There could be a few thousand alternate versions of the Mirror Universe, and in most of the ones where Betazed and Andor were razed, the ancestors of Deanna and Shar might have been killed and they wouldn't exist; but we preferentially follow one in which they do exist, and in which most of the other Prime Universe characters do as well. Maybe that coincidental convergence of individuals is why a link was established between the two timelines allowing recurring interaction between them.
     
  4. The Wormhole

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    It's been argued that oversaturating the market led to Trek's downfall. I'll agree it was certainly a factor, and it's something Disney is going to face soon if they continue to release their Marvel movies to the pattern they are, and if they do go ahead with the one Star Wars movie per year. I'm not really a believer in quality over quantity, and indeed I have expressed frustrations over how long it takes Abrams and Bad Robot to make their movies, however there's something preferable to a new Trek movie every two or three years over a new movie or two every year.
     
  5. Christopher

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    Well, Trek never had a "downfall," just a decline, as evidenced by how successfully it's rebounded. And I'm not sure anything can be said for certain about what factors caused that decline. Various people have their pet theories, but theories need repeatability to be verified, and that's difficult in TV/film when there are so many different variables in play at once. I find that a lot of conventional wisdom gets disproved sooner or later -- for instance, seven or eight years ago, most people assumed Trek would be moribund for another couple of decades, but it only took a few years to rebound after Enterprise ended.
     
  6. borgboy

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    The nice thing about doing three revolving movie serieses is that you would get three years between each TNG, three between each DS9 and three between each Voyager movie. So there would be a lot of variety in the characters, and each series should have it's own identity and themes, even in a shared universe.
     
  7. Christopher

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    Really, although it would make sense to the studio to reboot the existing shows and go for the name recognition, I might prefer it if they came up with new spinoff series of their own. That might allow for more variety than just a bunch of starship series. I mean, the advantage of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is that its individual series are all so different. Iron Man is a high-tech thriller, Thor is epic fantasy, Captain America had a war movie and then a conspiracy/political thriller, the Hulk is a monster movie, Guardians of the Galaxy is space opera, and so forth. It doesn't all feel the same because it covers so many different genres.

    I think we've managed to pull off something very like that in Trek Lit. Things like New Frontier, Vanguard, Articles of the Federation, and DTI are all very different in approach and tone, from each other and from the aired shows. If Paramount did go the shared-universe franchise route for big-screen Trek, it might be nice to see them develop a similar diversity.

    Of course, DS9 did manage to be quite different from its contemporaries. And VGR could've been very different if it had been free to take full advantage of its "lost in the wilderness" format. But there could certainly be other possibilities not yet explored onscreen.
     
  8. borgboy

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    I've had this idea of a space station based tv series as a companion to the reboot TOS movies. I wouldn't be opposed at all to new original spin offs from the reboot.
     
  9. Daddy Todd

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    Anyone else notice that IDW has gone from 22 pages of story to 20? Did that just happen, or was it a few issues back and I just didn't notice?
     
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  11. The Wormhole

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    The ship in the top image is basically the Kelvin design with influences from the Vengeance. The second one looks suspiciously similar to the Constellation class.
     
  12. King Daniel Beyond

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    That Kelvin-style one just became one of my favourite Trek designs. Love it.
     
  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Looks kind of like a Zat gun with nacelles.
     
  14. BillJ

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    After seven-hundred plus episode and ten movies, I like getting a film every three or four years. It makes Trek feel special again.
     
  15. borgboy

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    One movie a year to me still feels like a long wait. Trek always felt special to me, even when we had a couple of shows on at the same time.
    I get excited every time a new Trek book comes out.
    I am very easily pleased apparently. I really enjoy things to their fullest as much as I possibly can.
     
  16. Trek Survivor

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    Not sure, but "Flesh & stone" is also only 20 pages long!!

    What's going on, IDW? DC has some 20-paged books but they are cheaper. It might only be 2 story pages, but it's a bitter pill to take.
     
  17. Therin of Andor

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    Haven't DC and Marvel always been cheaper than the smaller publishers, just due to higher circulation figures alone?
     
  18. Stevil2001

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    Not really. All the publishers have comics at both $2.99 and $3.99.
     
  19. C.E. Evans

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    Heck, $2.99 comics are almost on the endangered species list these days, although DC has many more of them than Marvel does.
     
  20. xavier

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    I prefer IDW COMICS TO DC AND MARVEL.

    I only collect DC and marvel comics as graphic novels and not as a single comics. i hate all the adverts they put at the sides. it is very distracting.

    IDW comics looks more mature than DC and marvel comics because it has none of those silly adverts on every page of the book.
     

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